Mama Connette vibes and prayers

[lawgrad91]

Here is a posting from the Duke Football Parents Facebook page about setting up a meal delivery. Anyone interested in chipping in to send a meal from crazietalk? There is one option for the number of people they need to serve (11) - a lasagna dinner for $175 which includes shipping. I would be happy to coordinate if several people want to contribute.

Please pray for Nancy Connette, Brandon's mom. She has undergone surgery to remove a brain tumor. Please pray for healing and peace for the family. If you would like to help with a meal, you can order one to be delivered. If you would like to help, follow this link. http://www.takethemameal.com/meals.php?t=RKGD3196

I am in. (this isn't an NCAA violation if we do this, is it?)

Under a strict interpretation of the rules, I think it could be construed as a violation. I found this on the Duke Compliance page for athletes.

You are not allowed to accept the following benefits:

Discounts and credits
Free or reduced cost services
Telephones and credit cards
Entertainment services
Loans of money or assistance in payment of bills
Car or use of a car and other forms of transportation (i.e. airline tickets)
Other gifts (such as clothing, shoes, merchandise, meals)

I've sent an email to the folk in the Compliance Office seeking their opinion.

Perhaps we should just rent them cars, lots of cars, for extended periods of time, and give them sweet rental deals on $600K houses.

[DevilWearsPrada2.0]

Any update to Brandon's Mother's surgery???

Continued Thoughts and Prayers

[CameronBornAndBred]

Here is a posting from the Duke Football Parents Facebook page about setting up a meal delivery. Anyone interested in chipping in to send a meal from crazietalk? There is one option for the number of people they need to serve (11) - a lasagna dinner for $175 which includes shipping. I would be happy to coordinate if several people want to contribute.

Please pray for Nancy Connette, Brandon's mom. She has undergone surgery to remove a brain tumor. Please pray for healing and peace for the family. If you would like to help with a meal, you can order one to be delivered. If you would like to help, follow this link. http://www.takethemameal.com/meals.php?t=RKGD3196

I am in. (this isn't an NCAA violation if we do this, is it?)

Under a strict interpretation of the rules, I think it could be construed as a violation. I found this on the Duke Compliance page for athletes.

You are not allowed to accept the following benefits:

Discounts and credits
Free or reduced cost services
Telephones and credit cards
Entertainment services
Loans of money or assistance in payment of bills
Car or use of a car and other forms of transportation (i.e. airline tickets)
Other gifts (such as clothing, shoes, merchandise, meals)

I've sent an email to the folk in the Compliance Office seeking their opinion.

I would think since it is the player's mother, not the player, it would be OK...but then again it IS the NCAA. Hope you hear back, I will contribute.

[CathyCA]

Many thanks to my esteemed colleague, Madame Lawgrad Commonwealth for raising the initial question.

DO NOT CONTRIBUTE to this effort. Doing so is a violation.

Here is the email I got back from Todd Mesibov in Duke's Compliance Office:


Hi Ms. Thompson,

Thank you very much for checking in with us. You gut reaction is correct, fans are not permitted to provide direct benefits (meals, money, and other tangible benefits) to a student-athlete or his family, even in extraordinary circumstances like this. For situations like Brandon’s, the NCAA does allow us (Duke) to help with meals and other expenses that are not normally permissible, and we are doing our best to make this difficult time a little easier for Brandon and his family. We are looking into additional ways to help, and if there is an opportunity for our fans to provide any assistance, we will be sure to let you know as part of our efforts to get the word out.

Thank you again both for your desire to help Brandon’s family and for checking in to ask if the assistance is permissible. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Todd



Todd Mesibov
Assistant Athletics Director, Compliance
Duke University
Cameron Indoor Stadium, Box 90555
Durham, NC 27708-0555
(919) 668-5523

[CameronBornAndBred]

Well Crapola. Thanks for finding out though...hopefully Duke will be able to set something up.

[TillyGalore]

Many thanks to my esteemed colleague, Madame Lawgrad Commonwealth for raising the initial question.

DO NOT CONTRIBUTE to this effort. Doing so is a violation.

Here is the email I got back from Todd Mesibov in Duke's Compliance Office:


Hi Ms. Thompson,

Thank you very much for checking in with us. You gut reaction is correct, fans are not permitted to provide direct benefits (meals, money, and other tangible benefits) to a student-athlete or his family, even in extraordinary circumstances like this. For situations like Brandon’s, the NCAA does allow us (Duke) to help with meals and other expenses that are not normally permissible, and we are doing our best to make this difficult time a little easier for Brandon and his family. We are looking into additional ways to help, and if there is an opportunity for our fans to provide any assistance, we will be sure to let you know as part of our efforts to get the word out.

Thank you again both for your desire to help Brandon’s family and for checking in to ask if the assistance is permissible. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Todd



Todd Mesibov
Assistant Athletics Director, Compliance
Duke University
Cameron Indoor Stadium, Box 90555
Durham, NC 27708-0555
(919) 668-5523

This fuckin' ridiculous. The NCAA needs to get their head out of their ass. I understand why there are rules, but meals, really? Especially for an extraordinary situation like this.

[ArkieDukie]

This is why I've always been concerned about the basketball players getting food at tailgate. NCAA is so picky that you never know which direction they will go.

[windsor]

Many thanks to my esteemed colleague, Madame Lawgrad Commonwealth for raising the initial question.

DO NOT CONTRIBUTE to this effort. Doing so is a violation.

Here is the email I got back from Todd Mesibov in Duke's Compliance Office:


Hi Ms. Thompson,

Thank you very much for checking in with us. You gut reaction is correct, fans are not permitted to provide direct benefits (meals, money, and other tangible benefits) to a student-athlete or his family, even in extraordinary circumstances like this. For situations like Brandon’s, the NCAA does allow us (Duke) to help with meals and other expenses that are not normally permissible, and we are doing our best to make this difficult time a little easier for Brandon and his family. We are looking into additional ways to help, and if there is an opportunity for our fans to provide any assistance, we will be sure to let you know as part of our efforts to get the word out.

Thank you again both for your desire to help Brandon’s family and for checking in to ask if the assistance is permissible. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Todd



Todd Mesibov
Assistant Athletics Director, Compliance
Duke University
Cameron Indoor Stadium, Box 90555
Durham, NC 27708-0555
(919) 668-5523

This fuckin' ridiculous. The NCAA needs to get their head out of their ass. I understand why there are rules, but meals, really? Especially for an extraordinary situation like this.

The issue is drawing line on 'extraordinary' - next thing you know some tarhole parent would be getting free meals because they were agoraphobic.

[DevilWearsPrada2.0]

NCAA and its rules

[IowaDevil]

Duke football parents posted a link today on FB to Caring Bridge. Dad Connette posted about Mama and it sounds like more serious vibes and prayers are in order. Am not sure if this link will work but best I can do.


http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A ... 0-d93t&s=1

[Very Duke Blue]

Thanks ID. I will keep praying and vibing. Nancy and her family really need them.

[Cheermom]

Thanks for posting ID. I just saw the link on the Duke Football Parents page and was going to post it here.

Also thanks CathyCA for checking into the NCAA compliance rules on providing meals. I never would have thought of that. Do you think it is okay that other football parents provide meals because I know some have signed up?

[windsor]

Thanks for posting ID. I just saw the link on the Duke Football Parents page and was going to post it here.

Also thanks CathyCA for checking into the NCAA compliance rules on providing meals. I never would have thought of that. Do you think it is okay that other football parents provide meals because I know some have signed up?

Based on the NCAA response NO. It is absolutely NOT okay. Having said that, I would hope the NCAA would consider the intent and circumstances before they even considered imposing any penalty, but I wouldn't chance it.

[Ima Facultiwyfe]

So, how did we get by with all the collections for the Holliday hospital bills? What made that ok?
Love, Ima

[TillyGalore]

So, how did we get by with all the collections for the Holliday hospital bills? What made that ok?
Love, Ima

I was thinking the same thing too, Ima. I think it's more of "we" haven't been caught than why was it okay.

[lawgrad91]

So, how did we get by with all the collections for the Holliday hospital bills? What made that ok?
Love, Ima

I think those were set up by, or at least with the help of, the university. If you remember there were all kinds of strict rules about what the money could be used for. Like, I don't think Blair's mom could use the money for a hotel when he was in rehab in Atlanta.

Insert mean snarky reference to the NCAA here.

[DukieInKansas]

Thanks for posting ID. I just saw the link on the Duke Football Parents page and was going to post it here.

Also thanks CathyCA for checking into the NCAA compliance rules on providing meals. I never would have thought of that. Do you think it is okay that other football parents provide meals because I know some have signed up?

I would hope that the compliance office is aware of the effort and that the NCAA would view it as friends helping friends since the parents are a unique friendship group.

[CathyCA]

So, how did we get by with all the collections for the Holliday hospital bills? What made that ok?
Love, Ima

I think those were set up by, or at least with the help of, the university. If you remember there were all kinds of strict rules about what the money could be used for. Like, I don't think Blair's mom could use the money for a hotel when he was in rehab in Atlanta.

Insert mean snarky reference to the NCAA here.

LG is right. If it comes through the help of the university in an extraordinary situation, it's okay. The university likely needs to get pre-approval from the NCAA first.

QFE from Brian, the guy from Duke's Compliance office:

For situations like Brandon’s, the NCAA does allow us (Duke) to help with meals and other expenses that are not normally permissible, and we are doing our best to make this difficult time a little easier for Brandon and his family. We are looking into additional ways to help, and if there is an opportunity for our fans to provide any assistance, we will be sure to let you know as part of our efforts to get the word out.

It may not seem fair, but our university is doing things by the book, and for that we should be grateful.

[CathyCA]

Thanks for posting ID. I just saw the link on the Duke Football Parents page and was going to post it here.

Also thanks CathyCA for checking into the NCAA compliance rules on providing meals. I never would have thought of that. Do you think it is okay that other football parents provide meals because I know some have signed up?

If I were a football parent, I would contact Duke's Compliance office before signing up to provide a meal.

[windsor]

I think the key phrase is:

We are looking into additional ways to help, and if there is an opportunity for our fans to provide any assistance, we will be sure to let you know as part of our efforts to get the word out.

that tells me there is no current path for fans (or football parents) to provide assistance.