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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 2:27 pm

ArkieDukie wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 7:30 am
CrazyNotCrazie wrote:
December 9th, 2024, 8:09 pm
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December 9th, 2024, 1:41 pm


Yeah, I don' t think any of them should be pardoned, and I don't think there's a reasonable non-partisan argument that they do.
Correct, and anyone who compares it to George Floyd is just proving their ignorance and their inability to think independently and intelligently.
It is a huge false equivalency. It is the Faux News narrative, and I know that because I’ve heard my dad say something similar. Breaking into the Capitol and trashing it, and assaulting police officers in the process, is not the same as the George Floyd protests. No one was trying to overthrow the government and install a dictator in the latter.
Who is being charged with trying to overthrow the government? Nobody has been charged with insurrection.

Rioters should serve the time for the crimes they committed. If they destroyed property, they do the time. If the assaulted a police officer, do the time.

The majority of people who entered the Capitol that day were peaceful protesters, many who were let in by Capitol police. Those people do not deserve to be charged with anything.

Nobody was trying to install a fucking dictator. Last month proved that the majority of people don’t give a flying fuck about the bogus J6 bullshit. If you want your side to be successful, you’re going to have to get over that.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 2:28 pm

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Good reminder of why I now prefer BlueSky
You prefer echo chambers?
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 2:29 pm

Phredd3 wrote:
December 9th, 2024, 10:08 am
mattman91 wrote:
December 8th, 2024, 8:50 pm
Phredd3 wrote:
December 7th, 2024, 2:13 pm


So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.
If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?
So, the answer is "no", you don't have a reasoned opinion on this. Got it.
I gave you one, you just didn’t like it.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 2:39 pm

CrazyNotCrazie wrote:
December 8th, 2024, 10:45 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 8th, 2024, 8:50 pm
Phredd3 wrote:
December 7th, 2024, 2:13 pm


So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.
If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?
Speaking of do the crime, do the time, I really don't think this obnoxious attitude is in keeping with the community CB&B is trying to keep around here. And you kind of have a history of anger issues. I will defer to the CB&B to determine how he wants to run things and fully trust his judgement.

Despite this being pretty much an echo chamber of Democratic views, I think most of us are open to differing perspectives if they are brought in a respectful, intellectually coherent way that would have been OK in America pre-2015. I disagree with David French on a lot of core political issues but love reading what he has to say because he is very thoughtful and isn't looking to pick a fight. However, that is not what you are doing.
Lol.

After years of being falsely accused of being a fascist, sexist, racist, and “threat to democracy”, it is reasonable for me to have some “anger issues”.

You don’t get to just throw those words out and expect us (MAGA crowd) to not get angry, and to not want to take a victory lap after a huge win.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by Furniture » December 10th, 2024, 7:52 pm

mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 2:39 pm
CrazyNotCrazie wrote:
December 8th, 2024, 10:45 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 8th, 2024, 8:50 pm


If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?
Speaking of do the crime, do the time, I really don't think this obnoxious attitude is in keeping with the community CB&B is trying to keep around here. And you kind of have a history of anger issues. I will defer to the CB&B to determine how he wants to run things and fully trust his judgement.

Despite this being pretty much an echo chamber of Democratic views, I think most of us are open to differing perspectives if they are brought in a respectful, intellectually coherent way that would have been OK in America pre-2015. I disagree with David French on a lot of core political issues but love reading what he has to say because he is very thoughtful and isn't looking to pick a fight. However, that is not what you are doing.
Lol.

After years of being falsely accused of being a fascist, sexist, racist, and “threat to democracy”, it is reasonable for me to have some “anger issues”.

You don’t get to just throw those words out and expect us (MAGA crowd) to not get angry, and to not want to take a victory lap after a huge win.
I firmly believe what got tRump over the line to win in one of the smallest winning popular vote margins in many years (less than 50%) were just a few ordinary people who wanted to pay less for eggs. Then there is the MAGA mob that support the sexist, fascistic, racist, lying lunatic behaviors that is tRump. tRump winning isn’t going to change what those people are.
If anyone ever tells you they are a stable genius. Get the hell out of there.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 8:03 pm

Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 7:52 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 2:39 pm
CrazyNotCrazie wrote:
December 8th, 2024, 10:45 pm


Speaking of do the crime, do the time, I really don't think this obnoxious attitude is in keeping with the community CB&B is trying to keep around here. And you kind of have a history of anger issues. I will defer to the CB&B to determine how he wants to run things and fully trust his judgement.

Despite this being pretty much an echo chamber of Democratic views, I think most of us are open to differing perspectives if they are brought in a respectful, intellectually coherent way that would have been OK in America pre-2015. I disagree with David French on a lot of core political issues but love reading what he has to say because he is very thoughtful and isn't looking to pick a fight. However, that is not what you are doing.
Lol.

After years of being falsely accused of being a fascist, sexist, racist, and “threat to democracy”, it is reasonable for me to have some “anger issues”.

You don’t get to just throw those words out and expect us (MAGA crowd) to not get angry, and to not want to take a victory lap after a huge win.
I firmly believe what got tRump over the line to win in one of the smallest winning popular vote margins in many years (less than 50%) were just a few ordinary people who wanted to pay less for eggs. Then there is the MAGA mob that support the sexist, fascistic, racist, lying lunatic behaviors that is tRump. tRump winning isn’t going to change what those people are.
I mean it when I say this, please keep calling him those things. It is a losing strategy by the left, and as long as y'all keep it up you will keep losing.

You guys just don’t get it.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by Furniture » December 10th, 2024, 8:44 pm

mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:03 pm
Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 7:52 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 2:39 pm


Lol.

After years of being falsely accused of being a fascist, sexist, racist, and “threat to democracy”, it is reasonable for me to have some “anger issues”.

You don’t get to just throw those words out and expect us (MAGA crowd) to not get angry, and to not want to take a victory lap after a huge win.
I firmly believe what got tRump over the line to win in one of the smallest winning popular vote margins in many years (less than 50%) were just a few ordinary people who wanted to pay less for eggs. Then there is the MAGA mob that support the sexist, fascistic, racist, lying lunatic behaviors that is tRump. tRump winning isn’t going to change what those people are.
I mean it when I say this, please keep calling him those things. It is a losing strategy by the left, and as long as y'all keep it up you will keep losing.

You guys just don’t get it.
Nope. It’s not a strategy. It wasn’t the strategy. Its just the truth. Anyway, the lying fat orange turd can’t run again. That’s the fucking good news!
If anyone ever tells you they are a stable genius. Get the hell out of there.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 8:58 pm

Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:44 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:03 pm
Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 7:52 pm


I firmly believe what got tRump over the line to win in one of the smallest winning popular vote margins in many years (less than 50%) were just a few ordinary people who wanted to pay less for eggs. Then there is the MAGA mob that support the sexist, fascistic, racist, lying lunatic behaviors that is tRump. tRump winning isn’t going to change what those people are.
I mean it when I say this, please keep calling him those things. It is a losing strategy by the left, and as long as y'all keep it up you will keep losing.

You guys just don’t get it.
Nope. It’s not a strategy. It wasn’t the strategy. Its just the truth. Anyway, the lying fat orange turd can’t run again. That’s the fucking good news!
It’s not the truth at all.

That “fat orange turd” is your President Elect.

I’m sure overweight people don’t appreciate the fat shaming either 😉

Oh, and even though this is Trump’s last term, the movement has only begun.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by Furniture » December 10th, 2024, 9:12 pm

mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:58 pm
Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:44 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:03 pm


I mean it when I say this, please keep calling him those things. It is a losing strategy by the left, and as long as y'all keep it up you will keep losing.

You guys just don’t get it.
Nope. It’s not a strategy. It wasn’t the strategy. Its just the truth. Anyway, the lying fat orange turd can’t run again. That’s the fucking good news!
It’s not the truth at all.

That “fat orange turd” is your President Elect.

I’m sure overweight people don’t appreciate the fat shaming either 😉

Oh, and even though this is Trump’s last term, the movement has only begun.
Haha. The movement dies when the fat orange turd goes either by death or end of term. If it’s death I will be the first to piss on his grave.
If anyone ever tells you they are a stable genius. Get the hell out of there.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 9:14 pm

Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:12 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:58 pm
Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:44 pm


Nope. It’s not a strategy. It wasn’t the strategy. Its just the truth. Anyway, the lying fat orange turd can’t run again. That’s the fucking good news!
It’s not the truth at all.

That “fat orange turd” is your President Elect.

I’m sure overweight people don’t appreciate the fat shaming either 😉

Oh, and even though this is Trump’s last term, the movement has only begun.
Haha. The movement dies when the fat orange turd goes either by death or end of term. If it’s death I will be the first to piss on his grave.
You are completely unhinged dude. Seek help for your TDS.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by CameronBornAndBred » December 10th, 2024, 9:19 pm

The entirety of the last page of this thread has been nothing but insults and absolutely no substance. This is what happens when you engage with a troll. Word of advice, don't engage.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by Furniture » December 10th, 2024, 9:22 pm

mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:14 pm
Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:12 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 8:58 pm


It’s not the truth at all.

That “fat orange turd” is your President Elect.

I’m sure overweight people don’t appreciate the fat shaming either 😉

Oh, and even though this is Trump’s last term, the movement has only begun.
Haha. The movement dies when the fat orange turd goes either by death or end of term. If it’s death I will be the first to piss on his grave.
You are completely unhinged dude. Seek help for your TDS.
As far as I am concerned I am just replying with the same type of rhetoric as you when you posted here a couple of days ago. You don’t like it?
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by Furniture » December 10th, 2024, 9:25 pm

CameronBornAndBred wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:19 pm
The entirety of the last page of this thread has been nothing but insults and absolutely no substance. This is what happens when you engage with a troll. Word of advice, don't engage.
I tried to ignore it but two or three days of it was too much for me.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by CrazyNotCrazie » December 10th, 2024, 9:38 pm

CameronBornAndBred wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:19 pm
The entirety of the last page of this thread has been nothing but insults and absolutely no substance. This is what happens when you engage with a troll. Word of advice, don't engage.
Totally agree. Thank you. Is there an ignore poster feature here? It would make things a lot easier.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 9:47 pm

Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:22 pm
mattman91 wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:14 pm
Furniture wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:12 pm


Haha. The movement dies when the fat orange turd goes either by death or end of term. If it’s death I will be the first to piss on his grave.
You are completely unhinged dude. Seek help for your TDS.
As far as I am concerned I am just replying with the same type of rhetoric as you when you posted here a couple of days ago. You don’t like it?
Doesn’t bother me one bit buddy. I actually get a good laugh out of it.

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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by mattman91 » December 10th, 2024, 9:49 pm

CrazyNotCrazie wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:38 pm
CameronBornAndBred wrote:
December 10th, 2024, 9:19 pm
The entirety of the last page of this thread has been nothing but insults and absolutely no substance. This is what happens when you engage with a troll. Word of advice, don't engage.
Totally agree. Thank you. Is there an ignore poster feature here? It would make things a lot easier.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by Furniture » December 11th, 2024, 10:28 am

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Environment? Who cares about it?
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by CrazyNotCrazie » December 11th, 2024, 9:59 pm

Furniture wrote:
December 11th, 2024, 10:28 am
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Environment? Who cares about it?
I thought that according to Vance the only people worth anything in the world are those who are actively procreating. Yet he has no problem ruining the world for the future generations.

Again, it is an extreme reaction. Do some environmental regulations go too far? Perhaps. But is completely eliminating them the right solution? I don't think so. But does it give the libs angst? Yup! So they have won yet again and can take their victory lap. And that is what it is all about.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by jipops » December 12th, 2024, 11:57 am

Elon’s wealth has gone up 69% since the election. I’m sure that’s exactly what voters were going for.

Great oligarchy we got going on here.

Still mystifying that we’re sleepwalking into such a disaster.
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Re: The Political Junkie Thread

Post by jipops » December 12th, 2024, 12:18 pm

CrazyNotCrazie wrote:
December 11th, 2024, 9:59 pm
Furniture wrote:
December 11th, 2024, 10:28 am
DF831A02-CEA2-4920-85E9-9B4A5FCD9FAF.jpeg

Environment? Who cares about it?
I thought that according to Vance the only people worth anything in the world are those who are actively procreating. Yet he has no problem ruining the world for the future generations.

Again, it is an extreme reaction. Do some environmental regulations go too far? Perhaps. But is completely eliminating them the right solution? I don't think so. But does it give the libs angst? Yup! So they have won yet again and can take their victory lap. And that is what it is all about.
Yeah, I think it must always remain clear that none of the moves by this current admin are for the purpose of actual governance. The fact that two self-serving billionaires are put in charge of funding for government entities proves that. This is all for gaining any perceived political clout, retaining power, and sticking it to political enemies. This is by far the most unpatriotic of political movements we’ve seen in American history.
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