The Political Junkie Thread

[CrazyNotCrazie]

I find this really interesting. Chad Chronister (bless your parents' naming skills) was and now isn't Trump's pick for the DEA. I had no idea who he was, because, I'm like the rest of America.
Here's part of his statement.

Sheriff Chronister, the top law enforcement officer in Hillsborough County, Florida, said in a post on X that he was backing away from the opportunity, which he called “the honor of a lifetime.”

“Over the past several days, as the gravity of this very important responsibility set in, I’ve concluded that I must respectfully withdraw from consideration,” Chronister wrote. He did not elaborate, and Trump's transition team did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment.

My guess is that he's got some skeletons that were about to be loosed out of his closet. Same thing that took Gaetz down, except his were mostly known.
Note to Team Trump...vetting is done for a reason.

Yes, CC may very well be more invested in continuing to serve his local community as he further posted, but I ain't buying that. Does a football coach stay at Coastal Carolina when the ACC calls? Only if they are about to be exposed for cheating on the wife while cheating on an exam at Carolina.

Long story short...Mr. Trump might look into the idea of vetting, as much as it pains him.


PS...CC might be totally true to form and sticking with the home team because they need him...but I'm withholding my giggles.

It would have been ironic if they discovered years of rampant drug use or other related activities from the guy chosen to run the DEA. I agree that someone probably told him there would be a lot of people doing a deep dive into his background and he realized this was a bad idea. In an ideal world, the local newspapers where he lives would now also realize this and do a deep dive into his background, but local newspapers barely exist anymore so that is unlikely to happen.

I generally don't get my jollies out of having people get exposed but when they are chronies of Trump (Chad "the Chronie" Chronister) it does become very enjoyable.

[ArkieDukie]

He only chooses the best people!

Okay, back to beg more popcorn before the next act of the show starts.

[Furniture]

He only chooses the best people!

Okay, back to beg more popcorn before the next act of the show starts.

Looks like Trump is already seeing the writing on the wall about Hegseth. He has a possible replacement. Ron DeSantis.
I wonder if this would be a hire to fire?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna182777

[AtlBluRew]

He only chooses the best people!

Okay, back to beg more popcorn before the next act of the show starts.

Looks like Trump is already seeing the writing on the wall about Hegseth. He has a possible replacement. Ron DeSantis.
I wonder if this would be a hire to fire?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna182777

Remember Trump’s transactional nature. DeSantis is currently considering who to appoint to Rubio’s Senate seat. Trump will get him to appoint Lara Trump in a trade for the Pentagon.

[CameronBornAndBred]

HA! Well I was wrong in my guess as to why Chronister pulled out of the DEA appointment.

On Wednesday, however, Trump said in a social media post, mainly focused on his grievances against the Wall Street Journal, he pulled his support for the pick over previous comments Chronister made about “my pastors and other supporters.”

“He didn’t pull out, I pulled him out, because I did not like what he said to my pastors and other supporters,” Trump said on Truth Social.

So did Trump nominate him knowing what mean things he had said, just to publicly humiliate him? Or is this another one of Trump's bajillion lies?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... 235d&ei=57

[CameronBornAndBred]

The final House elections are tallied.

Democrat Adam Gray has defeated GOP Rep. John Duarte in a rematch in California’s 13th District in the Central Valley following weeks of ballot counting, NBC News projects, meaning Republicans won 220 House seats in the 2024 elections to Democrats’ 215. The GOP can lose just two votes on legislation in the House in the next Congress if Democrats all vote in opposition, giving them little wiggle room for absences, internal fighting and vacancies.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-fl ... 07300.html

[Phredd3]

“No one is above the law”

- Joe Biden 5/31/24


Joe Biden 12/1/2024

*pardons his son*

How do we feel about this? Is Hunter a “no one”, or is Joe a liar?

So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.

[AtlBluRew]

“No one is above the law”

- Joe Biden 5/31/24


Joe Biden 12/1/2024

*pardons his son*

How do we feel about this? Is Hunter a “no one”, or is Joe a liar?

On 5/31/24, it was still true in theory that no man was above the law.

On 7/1/24, the Supreme Court stated that in fact, one man is above the law.

On 11/5/24, lawlessness was elected President and began to assemble a Cabinet not bound to the law, but rather to use of government for personal ends.

So, Hunter is not a no one, and Joe was only stating the truth at the time.

[mattman91]

“No one is above the law”

- Joe Biden 5/31/24


Joe Biden 12/1/2024

*pardons his son*

How do we feel about this? Is Hunter a “no one”, or is Joe a liar?

So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.

If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?

[mattman91]

“No one is above the law”

- Joe Biden 5/31/24


Joe Biden 12/1/2024

*pardons his son*

How do we feel about this? Is Hunter a “no one”, or is Joe a liar?

On 5/31/24, it was still true in theory that no man was above the law.

On 7/1/24, the Supreme Court stated that in fact, one man is above the law.

On 11/5/24, lawlessness was elected President and began to assemble a Cabinet not bound to the law, but rather to use of government for personal ends.

So, Hunter is not a no one, and Joe was only stating the truth at the time.

That’s a funny way of saying you are OK with some people being above the law.

I wish you well in these coming times of peace and prosperity.

[Furniture]

Looks like Trump is really going to pardon the J6 rioters. I can’t get those images of the breaking of the glass, climbing through windows and attacking the police out of my head. How can anyone be ok with this?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-p ... =116577153

[CrazyNotCrazie]

“No one is above the law”

- Joe Biden 5/31/24


Joe Biden 12/1/2024

*pardons his son*

How do we feel about this? Is Hunter a “no one”, or is Joe a liar?

So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.

If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?

Speaking of do the crime, do the time, I really don't think this obnoxious attitude is in keeping with the community CB&B is trying to keep around here. And you kind of have a history of anger issues. I will defer to the CB&B to determine how he wants to run things and fully trust his judgement.

Despite this being pretty much an echo chamber of Democratic views, I think most of us are open to differing perspectives if they are brought in a respectful, intellectually coherent way that would have been OK in America pre-2015. I disagree with David French on a lot of core political issues but love reading what he has to say because he is very thoughtful and isn't looking to pick a fight. However, that is not what you are doing.

[Furniture]

So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.

If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?

Speaking of do the crime, do the time, I really don't think this obnoxious attitude is in keeping with the community CB&B is trying to keep around here. And you kind of have a history of anger issues. I will defer to the CB&B to determine how he wants to run things and fully trust his judgement.

Despite this being pretty much an echo chamber of Democratic views, I think most of us are open to differing perspectives if they are brought in a respectful, intellectually coherent way that would have been OK in America pre-2015. I disagree with David French on a lot of core political issues but love reading what he has to say because he is very thoughtful and isn't looking to pick a fight. However, that is not what you are doing.

Yeah. The “any further questions from the minority “ was a bit much for me and I won’t be hanging around here much with that type of discourse.

[Furniture]

Looks like Trump is really going to pardon the J6 rioters. I can’t get those images of the breaking of the glass, climbing through windows and attacking the police out of my head. How can anyone be ok with this?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-p ... =116577153

Trump didn’t rule out pardoning individuals who had pleaded guilty, including when Welker asked him about those who had admitted to assaulting police officers.

“Because they had no choice,” Trump said.

[Phredd3]

“No one is above the law”

- Joe Biden 5/31/24


Joe Biden 12/1/2024

*pardons his son*

How do we feel about this? Is Hunter a “no one”, or is Joe a liar?

So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.

If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?

So, the answer is "no", you don't have a reasoned opinion on this. Got it.

[Chicago 1995]

“No one is above the law”

- Joe Biden 5/31/24


Joe Biden 12/1/2024

*pardons his son*

How do we feel about this? Is Hunter a “no one”, or is Joe a liar?

So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.

If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?

Yeah, I don' t think any of them should be pardoned, and I don't think there's a reasonable non-partisan argument that they do.

[acdevil]

Good reminder of why I now prefer BlueSky

[CrazyNotCrazie]

So, just to clarify, is it therefore your position that the Presidential pardon should not exist? I'm asking because that is the conclusion that follows from this line of reasoning.

Oh, and how exactly does your position square with the previous pardon of Charles Kushner, and the probable impending pardons of the January 6th capital rioters? I'm genuinely curious if you have a reasoned opinion on this.

If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?

Yeah, I don' t think any of them should be pardoned, and I don't think there's a reasonable non-partisan argument that they do.

Correct, and anyone who compares it to George Floyd is just proving their ignorance and their inability to think independently and intelligently.

[Furniture]

Good reminder of why I now prefer BlueSky

[ArkieDukie]

If you want to go there, yes, MOST January 6th protesters deserve a pardon, and should get one.

If they destroyed property or caused injury, they should serve their appropriate time (unlike the thugs from the 2020 “summer of love” riots)

Any further questions from the minority?

Yeah, I don' t think any of them should be pardoned, and I don't think there's a reasonable non-partisan argument that they do.

Correct, and anyone who compares it to George Floyd is just proving their ignorance and their inability to think independently and intelligently.

It is a huge false equivalency. It is the Faux News narrative, and I know that because I’ve heard my dad say something similar. Breaking into the Capitol and trashing it, and assaulting police officers in the process, is not the same as the George Floyd protests. No one was trying to overthrow the government and install a dictator in the latter.