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captmojo
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by captmojo » November 23rd, 2011, 8:12 pm
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by lawgrad91 » November 24th, 2011, 12:31 am
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by windsor » November 24th, 2011, 8:31 am
All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost; the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by the frost.
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by Ima Facultiwyfe » November 24th, 2011, 7:16 pm
It's been clear from the outset on this thread that you value your professional reputation and take care to protect it. That's what got you to this point and that's what is paying off now. So proud to know ya and we're still vibing. Thanks for keeping all of us who care in the loop!
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by ArkieDukie » November 28th, 2011, 4:58 pm
Just got off the phone with the guy at UT Southwestern. He didn't contact me sooner because the top salary he can offer is about $20K less than I'm making right now.
With that being said, it does sound like an interesting job with more of an emphasis on things I like to do. We left things with a plan to contact him once I've interviewed at UTMB-Galveston. I got the hard sell on why UTSW is better than UTMB (higher ranking, etc.). We shall see. I've never been a huge fan of Dallas, but I know very little about Galveston. I'll know more in a week!
I also got an e-mail today from a head hunter, asking about my interest in a job in SoCal.
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by shereec » November 28th, 2011, 7:19 pm
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by windsor » November 28th, 2011, 8:48 pm
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ArkieDukie wrote:Just got off the phone with the guy at UT Southwestern. He didn't contact me sooner because the top salary he can offer is about $20K less than I'm making right now.
With that being said, it does sound like an interesting job with more of an emphasis on things I like to do. We left things with a plan to contact him once I've interviewed at UTMB-Galveston. I got the hard sell on why UTSW is better than UTMB (higher ranking, etc.). We shall see. I've never been a huge fan of Dallas, but I know very little about Galveston. I'll know more in a week!
I also got an e-mail today from a head hunter, asking about my interest in a job in SoCal.
20k is a lot. What is the cost of living differential? Is there anything else they can do in the perk department to/sweeten the pot...what is the potential for more money soon...and what is your sanity and job happiness worth?

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by Lavabe » November 28th, 2011, 9:31 pm
What is your health worth?
Can they adjust the promotion schedule?
Can they do personal development (e.g., conference fees/travel/lodging), relo (NOT likely), etc...
Benefits?
Of course, the other thing to consider is how much longer PHB will keep you. A job at 20K lower may be better than unemployment. Of course, that depends on PHB, and your assessment of his moves over the next year.
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ArkieDukie
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by ArkieDukie » November 29th, 2011, 12:59 pm
Lavabe wrote:
What is your health worth?
Can they adjust the promotion schedule?
Can they do personal development (e.g., conference fees/travel/lodging), relo (NOT likely), etc...
Benefits?
Of course, the other thing to consider is how much longer PHB will keep you. A job at 20K lower may be better than unemployment. Of course, that depends on PHB, and your assessment of his moves over the next year.
We did discuss ways to upgrade the position in order to increase the salary. Remember that, as with most positions at state institutions, the salary that is tied with the position is determined by the job title. The position could be upgraded to a research assistant professor position; that would put me in my current salary range. That type of change takes time, and it's very likely going to be an issue at UTMB-Galveston as well. I have not discussed this issue with the UTMB-Galveston people yet.
One other point: the guy at UTMB-Galveston is a full professor; the guy at UTSW-Dallas is an assitant professor. The full professor has more political clout to upgrade the position than the assistant professor does.
I'm thinking very seriously about contacting the guy at UTSW to continue discussion regarding the job. We left it with a plan to contact him after the interview at UTMB, but it might be better to get the wheels in motion. Besides, I'd really like to have the comparison/contrast that another interview would provide. It sounds as though the two positions are very similar, so it would be a matter of comparing the two institutions. With that being said, the whole untenured boss thing at UTSW makes me a bit nervous.
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by ArkieDukie » December 4th, 2011, 8:32 am
I leave tomorrow for the interview at UTMB-Galveston. I finished my seminar late yesterday afternoon and will do some polishing today. My iPad is packed full of .pdfs to read for background info. Now I nust need to pack the suitcase, do lots of reading, and pray that the weather holds out. Depending on where you look, we're either in line for snow or rain. Hope it's the latter.
Vibes, please!
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by lawgrad91 » December 4th, 2011, 8:54 am
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by OZZIE4DUKE » December 4th, 2011, 9:17 am
Good luck AD! You'll do great! Vibes and weather vibes too }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}]]
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by CathyCA » December 4th, 2011, 9:21 am
Good luck!

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by IowaDevil » December 4th, 2011, 10:50 am
Good luck to you!
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by captmojo » December 4th, 2011, 10:51 am
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by TillyGalore » December 4th, 2011, 11:22 am
ArkieDukie wrote:I leave tomorrow for the interview at UTMB-Galveston. I finished my seminar late yesterday afternoon and will do some polishing today. My iPad is packed full of .pdfs to read for background info. Now I nust need to pack the suitcase, do lots of reading, and pray that the weather holds out. Depending on where you look, we're either in line for snow or rain. Hope it's the latter.
Vibes, please!
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by windsor » December 4th, 2011, 11:59 am
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by Lavabe » December 4th, 2011, 6:13 pm
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