rivalry hatred theory
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rivalry hatred theory
My PA school mentee, who is from California and not a sports fan, has some interesting thoughts about rivalry hatred after seeing all the unc vitriol on facebook:
so, as i said, i don't follow the teams that closely... but, i heard that for NC schools, the rivalry goes something like this:
Duke <--UNC
UNC <--NC state
NC state <--ECU
and, with the latter of the pair always feeling more hatred toward the other (as indicated by the arrow). my theory is that the more prestige a school has (the ones being pointed at), that school's rival feels more inclined to be "in competition" with the more prestigious school because they are striving to be placed in the same arbitrary ranks so to speak...
the lesser prestigious school wants to be associated with and have the same status as the higher academically ranking school, while the more prestigious school really doesn't feel the same level of "threat" or hatred toward the less prestigious school (because the prestigious school already has prestige and doesn't feel as desperate). anyway, i think i also heard something on NPR talking about this... not sure...
i think people tend to want to associate themselves with something "better"... it's ingrained in our unconscious mentality to favor the label, brand, the bigger name, higher status... that's why people also like to drop names and such...
that is the rough outline of my theory...
so, as i said, i don't follow the teams that closely... but, i heard that for NC schools, the rivalry goes something like this:
Duke <--UNC
UNC <--NC state
NC state <--ECU
and, with the latter of the pair always feeling more hatred toward the other (as indicated by the arrow). my theory is that the more prestige a school has (the ones being pointed at), that school's rival feels more inclined to be "in competition" with the more prestigious school because they are striving to be placed in the same arbitrary ranks so to speak...
the lesser prestigious school wants to be associated with and have the same status as the higher academically ranking school, while the more prestigious school really doesn't feel the same level of "threat" or hatred toward the less prestigious school (because the prestigious school already has prestige and doesn't feel as desperate). anyway, i think i also heard something on NPR talking about this... not sure...
i think people tend to want to associate themselves with something "better"... it's ingrained in our unconscious mentality to favor the label, brand, the bigger name, higher status... that's why people also like to drop names and such...
that is the rough outline of my theory...
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Re: rivalry hatred theory
Strange how Maryland doesn't figure into your theory. ;)
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Re: rivalry hatred theory
I think the ECU-->State and the State-->unc things work OK, but I would have a hard time believing that any heel hates Duke more than I hate them.
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What Wilson said.wilson wrote:I think the ECU-->State and the State-->unc things work OK, but I would have a hard time believing that any heel hates Duke more than I hate them.
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I'm with both of you! I really, really hate the heels.CathyCA wrote:What Wilson said.wilson wrote:I think the ECU-->State and the State-->unc things work OK, but I would have a hard time believing that any heel hates Duke more than I hate them.
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Re: rivalry hatred theory
I don't hate the school in and of itself, just the maggots that pull for them.
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Re: rivalry hatred theory
Agreed.lawgrad91 wrote:I don't hate the school in and of itself, just the maggots that pull for them.
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Re: rivalry hatred theory
I agree with all of the foregoing. It's a great university, and as much as it pains me to admit it, Chapel Hill is a great town. It's that baby blue shit that I can't stand. And this is all the more reason that I really can't understand why they would so willingly allow people like Butch Davis to besmirch the university on the whole.Lavabe wrote:Agreed.lawgrad91 wrote:I don't hate the school in and of itself, just the maggots that pull for them.
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Re: rivalry hatred theory
I've lived in NC most of my life, work in Chapel Hill, and by far the #1 reason for my hatred is the fans. Those pompous, whiny, hateful bastards ruined my opinion from an early, early age putting up with the vitriol and nastiness for anyone who didn't totally fall in-line with their beliefs like sheep. I have had good experience with the academic side, the hospital, the people in Chapel Hill...all until they find out that I'm a Duke loyalist, then they change completely. They can all GTH!!
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Has Mr. Chansky changed his password yet? Does he know what 9f means yet? I was so tempted to tell Bill Brill and Bob Harris about your deed at last weeks Blue Devil Club meeting, but didn't. Don't know that I'll be able to resist next time I see them, like at the ACC Tourney...robertduke32 wrote:I've lived in NC most of my life, work in Chapel Hill, and by far the #1 reason for my hatred is the fans. Those pompous, whiny, hateful bastards ruined my opinion from an early, early age putting up with the vitriol and nastiness for anyone who didn't totally fall in-line with their beliefs like sheep. I have had good experience with the academic side, the hospital, the people in Chapel Hill...all until they find out that I'm a Duke loyalist, then they change completely. They can all GTH!!
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