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This was on the day I stayed home from work with a cold, about the same time the ruling came down that cheerleading wasn't a college sport. You could have knocked me over with a feather. Collegiate bass fishing? Maybe it's a sign of the Apocalypse.Lavabe wrote:Someone here alerted me to THIS major sporting news while I was abroad:
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Cheerleading doesn't count, but bass fishing does?lawgrad91 wrote:This was on the day I stayed home from work with a cold, about the same time the ruling came down that cheerleading wasn't a college sport. You could have knocked me over with a feather. Collegiate bass fishing? Maybe it's a sign of the Apocalypse.Lavabe wrote:Someone here alerted me to THIS major sporting news while I was abroad:
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AD, that made absolutely no sense to me either. What sort of workout program do "athletes" in the bass fishing program follow? All the fishermen I know only do 12 ounce curls.ArkieDukie wrote:Cheerleading doesn't count, but bass fishing does?
I challenge any of those guys to try keeping up with CLD, for instance. Bet they'd have a difficult time.lawgrad91 wrote:AD, that made absolutely no sense to me either. What sort of workout program do "athletes" in the bass fishing program follow? All the fishermen I know only do 12 ounce curls.ArkieDukie wrote:Cheerleading doesn't count, but bass fishing does?
You know it!ArkieDukie wrote:I challenge any of those guys to try keeping up with CLD, for instance. Bet they'd have a difficult time.lawgrad91 wrote:AD, that made absolutely no sense to me either. What sort of workout program do "athletes" in the bass fishing program follow? All the fishermen I know only do 12 ounce curls.ArkieDukie wrote:Cheerleading doesn't count, but bass fishing does?
NCAA has NOT gotten their hands in on bass fishing. I just posed it as a question in the title of the thread.ArkieDukie wrote:Cheerleading doesn't count, but bass fishing does?lawgrad91 wrote:This was on the day I stayed home from work with a cold, about the same time the ruling came down that cheerleading wasn't a college sport. You could have knocked me over with a feather. Collegiate bass fishing? Maybe it's a sign of the Apocalypse.Lavabe wrote:Someone here alerted me to THIS major sporting news while I was abroad:
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She does have practice 3 days/week with running, stretching, tumbling and dancing for about 2 hours each session. If they competed like some of the coed squads do, that comes really close to a "sport" for me.ArkieDukie wrote:I challenge any of those guys to try keeping up with CLD, for instance. Bet they'd have a difficult time.lawgrad91 wrote:AD, that made absolutely no sense to me either. What sort of workout program do "athletes" in the bass fishing program follow? All the fishermen I know only do 12 ounce curls.ArkieDukie wrote:Cheerleading doesn't count, but bass fishing does?
Well, as for the curls, are those the ones you may see in court after getting caught on Phillpot? They should be caught...and busted, but good.ArkieDukie wrote:I challenge any of those guys to try keeping up with CLD, for instance. Bet they'd have a difficult time.lawgrad91 wrote:AD, that made absolutely no sense to me either. What sort of workout program do "athletes" in the bass fishing program follow? All the fishermen I know only do 12 ounce curls.ArkieDukie wrote:Cheerleading doesn't count, but bass fishing does?
Surely a sport is not solely defined by a minimal number of "exercise hours." After all, if we look at the Olympic Games, air rifle and curling are considered competitions. Then again, back at the St. Louis Olympics, TUG O' WAR was considered an important sport. And well, hey, I think about those old ABC Wide World of Sport competitions, like the world wrist-wrestling competition at Petaluma, CA.devildeac wrote:She does have practice 3 days/week with running, stretching, tumbling and dancing for about 2 hours each session. If they competed like some of the coed squads do, that comes really close to a "sport" for me.
This should be the new number one item on the to-do list for the potential athletic administration of Ozzie. Sorry to those of you who had hoped it would be the replacement of the Wally Wade track with seats. Duke MUST get a Bassmaster team, and the Capt is the perfect choice for coach.captmojo wrote:Should Duke be in need of a coach, I'd be available.
Wouldn't that fall within the purview of our AD prior to the current one? He was the boating master.Lavabe wrote:This should be the new number one item on the to-do list for the potential athletic administration of Ozzie. Sorry to those of you who had hoped it would be the replacement of the Wally Wade track with seats. Duke MUST get a Bassmaster team, and the Capt is the perfect choice for coach.captmojo wrote:Should Duke be in need of a coach, I'd be available.![]()
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Where in my post do I try to define sport based on # of exercise hours? Start a new thread called "Define Sport" or "What is your definition of a sport"Lavabe wrote:Surely a sport is not solely defined by a minimal number of "exercise hours." After all, if we look at the Olympic Games, air rifle and curling are considered competitions. Then again, back at the St. Louis Olympics, TUG O' WAR was considered an important sport. And well, hey, I think about those old ABC Wide World of Sport competitions, like the world wrist-wrestling competition at Petaluma, CA.devildeac wrote:She does have practice 3 days/week with running, stretching, tumbling and dancing for about 2 hours each session. If they competed like some of the coed squads do, that comes really close to a "sport" for me.
According to title IX, they'll consider Cheerleading a sport "…if it meets certain criteria, namely that it has coaches, practices, competitions during a defined season, a governing organization, and competition as its primary goal…". So far we've got coaches and practices covered, but I"m not sure about a governing organization. All that's left now is competitions during a defined season.devildeac wrote:Where in my post do I try to define sport based on # of exercise hours? Start a new thread called "Define Sport" or "What is your definition of a sport"Lavabe wrote:Surely a sport is not solely defined by a minimal number of "exercise hours." After all, if we look at the Olympic Games, air rifle and curling are considered competitions. Then again, back at the St. Louis Olympics, TUG O' WAR was considered an important sport. And well, hey, I think about those old ABC Wide World of Sport competitions, like the world wrist-wrestling competition at Petaluma, CA.devildeac wrote:She does have practice 3 days/week with running, stretching, tumbling and dancing for about 2 hours each session. If they competed like some of the coed squads do, that comes really close to a "sport" for me.
Some collegiate teams do compete and I'd guess they are mostly (all?) coed teams. (CLD was on an all female competitive squad for 6 years while in MS and HS.) Doubt that will ever happen again at Duke due to a severe injury during "stunting" a few decades ago. I would certainly agree with the competitions part of the ruling but kinda find the "governing organization" to be BS. I'd suspect you'd have 2 squads, a "varsity" squad for competing and a "JV" squad for pep purposes. The talent pool would be diluted for certain. I have eyewitness/personal testimony for that observation. You might have to add the "dance team" scores in, too, as the cheer squads have some elements/participants of that in addition to the gymnastics and tumbling skills.Miles wrote:According to title IX, they'll consider Cheerleading a sport "…if it meets certain criteria, namely that it has coaches, practices, competitions during a defined season, a governing organization, and competition as its primary goal…". So far we've got coaches and practices covered, but I"m not sure about a governing organization. All that's left now is competitions during a defined season.devildeac wrote:Where in my post do I try to define sport based on # of exercise hours? Start a new thread called "Define Sport" or "What is your definition of a sport"Lavabe wrote: Surely a sport is not solely defined by a minimal number of "exercise hours." After all, if we look at the Olympic Games, air rifle and curling are considered competitions. Then again, back at the St. Louis Olympics, TUG O' WAR was considered an important sport. And well, hey, I think about those old ABC Wide World of Sport competitions, like the world wrist-wrestling competition at Petaluma, CA.
I wonder what would happen if Division 1 schools wanted to pursue Competitive Cheerleading. Would there be two squads: 1) Competitive Cheerleading Squad, 2) Pep Squad? If so, would the creation of the competitive squad dilute the talent pool for the pep squad and vice versa? Maybe gymnastics teams could add a category for cheering where the cheering teams could receive medals for squad performance while their scores would contribute to the overall team score.
Who's worse: the governing organization or the NCAA?devildeac wrote:Some collegiate teams do compete and I'd guess they are mostly (all?) coed teams. (CLD was on an all female competitive squad for 6 years while in MS and HS.) Doubt that will ever happen again at Duke due to a severe injury during "stunting" a few decades ago. I would certainly agree with the competitions part of the ruling but kinda find the "governing organization" to be BS. I'd suspect you'd have 2 squads, a "varsity" squad for competing and a "JV" squad for pep purposes. The talent pool would be diluted for certain. I have eyewitness/personal testimony for that observation. You might have to add the "dance team" scores in, too, as the cheer squads have some elements/participants of that in addition to the gymnastics and tumbling skills.
I assumed the NCAA would be the governing organization.Lavabe wrote:Who's worse: the governing organization or the NCAA?devildeac wrote:Some collegiate teams do compete and I'd guess they are mostly (all?) coed teams. (CLD was on an all female competitive squad for 6 years while in MS and HS.) Doubt that will ever happen again at Duke due to a severe injury during "stunting" a few decades ago. I would certainly agree with the competitions part of the ruling but kinda find the "governing organization" to be BS. I'd suspect you'd have 2 squads, a "varsity" squad for competing and a "JV" squad for pep purposes. The talent pool would be diluted for certain. I have eyewitness/personal testimony for that observation. You might have to add the "dance team" scores in, too, as the cheer squads have some elements/participants of that in addition to the gymnastics and tumbling skills.![]()
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Back to fishing:
Given that UGA came in second, and LSU had a strong showing, how soon before the SEC becomes the dominant force in collegiate fishing? Perhaps the WAC would lead in fly-fishing?
CaptMojo? Any thoughts?
NC State has a win under their ample belts. They had a decent run this year too.Lavabe wrote:
Back to fishing:
Given that UGA came in second, and LSU had a strong showing, how soon before the SEC becomes the dominant force in collegiate fishing? Perhaps the WAC would lead in fly-fishing?
CaptMojo? Any thoughts?