New CPR technique

[OZZIE4DUKE]

If you haven't seen this, you should!

This is a new CPR technique (no mouth to mouth) which is much simpler.

You never know, you might save a life some day.
http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59


When I first opened the email, I expected something like the "Hind Lick" maneuver, but this is for real. Hope we don't need to use it at a Brunchgate, but it is nice to know.

Dr. DD - any comments?

[bjornolf]

Cool. We should sticky that or something.

[devildeac]

If you haven't seen this, you should!

This is a new CPR technique (no mouth to mouth) which is much simpler.

You never know, you might save a life some day.
http://tinyurl.com/2fx8r59


When I first opened the email, I expected something like the "Hind Lick" maneuver, but this is for real. Hope we don't need to use it at a Brunchgate, but it is nice to know.

Dr. DD - any comments?

They come up with something new every few yeaqrs or so with CPR. Hard to believe that some oxygenation, even with a a face mask/inflatable bag, if available or when EMS arrives, is not useful, too. We have to re-certify for ACLS every 2 years so it will be interesting to see how/if they incorporate that into next year's course.

[CathyCA]

Good info to know.

[bjornolf]

I think it's important to note that at the end of the video, the woman says that this new technique should NOT be used for infants, small children, and drowning victims. I guess when your lungs are full of water, it doesn't create enough of the vacuum effect they were talking about to get any air into the lungs.

[devildeac]

I think it's important to note that at the end of the video, the woman says that this new technique should NOT be used for infants, small children, and drowning victims. I guess when your lungs are full of water, it doesn't create enough of the vacuum effect they were talking about to get any air into the lungs.

It might also make sense physiologically/anatomically to make sure the lungs are expanded with the 2 breaths per each 15 (or 30) compressions cycles so there is more surface area to oxygenate instead of just alveoli filled with water.

[bjornolf]

I think it's important to note that at the end of the video, the woman says that this new technique should NOT be used for infants, small children, and drowning victims. I guess when your lungs are full of water, it doesn't create enough of the vacuum effect they were talking about to get any air into the lungs.

It might also make sense physiologically/anatomically to make sure the lungs are expanded with the 2 breaths per each 15 (or 30) compressions cycles so there is more surface area to oxygenate instead of just alveoli filled with water.

Hey, doc, I know that that thing on the cartoons pumping the legs to get the water out doesn't quite work that way, but is there an approved way to try to get the water out of the lungs before starting CPR?

[devildeac]

I think it's important to note that at the end of the video, the woman says that this new technique should NOT be used for infants, small children, and drowning victims. I guess when your lungs are full of water, it doesn't create enough of the vacuum effect they were talking about to get any air into the lungs.

It might also make sense physiologically/anatomically to make sure the lungs are expanded with the 2 breaths per each 15 (or 30) compressions cycles so there is more surface area to oxygenate instead of just alveoli filled with water.

Hey, doc, I know that that thing on the cartoons pumping the legs to get the water out doesn't quite work that way, but is there an approved way to try to get the water out of the lungs before starting CPR?

I'm not sure we covered that topic in our last ACLS course, but I think it is to elevate the legs slightly and turn the head to one side or the other to minimize further entry of fluid into the lungs. Also, one should sweep the mouth clear of any liquid or semi-solid contents with your fingers, a rag or suction device, if available.

[bjornolf]

I'm not sure we covered that topic in our last ACLS course, but I think it is to elevate the legs slightly and turn the head to one side or the other to minimize further entry of fluid into the lungs. Also, one should sweep the mouth clear of any liquid or semi-solid contents with your fingers, a rag or suction device, if available.

Oh, so the old lie them on their stomach with their head to the side and pump their back routine isn't recommended anymore?

[devildeac]

I'm not sure we covered that topic in our last ACLS course, but I think it is to elevate the legs slightly and turn the head to one side or the other to minimize further entry of fluid into the lungs. Also, one should sweep the mouth clear of any liquid or semi-solid contents with your fingers, a rag or suction device, if available.

Oh, so the old lie them on their stomach with their head to the side and pump their back routine isn't recommended anymore?

Not in the 2009 update course that we took.