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The eyes DO tell...

Post by EarlJam » May 11th, 2010, 3:09 pm

Who was it that said, "The eyes are the windows to the soul" or something like that? Years ago, I read the book "Blink," and the writer spoke much to this. It is so true. You may be able to fool people with words or fake emotions, but unless you are a sociopath, your eyes will betray you all the time. In fact, now that I think about it, "Blink" was the perfect title to that book because it only takes an instant for your eyes to involuntarily do something that gives you away. AND, there are so many ways for it to happen.

From the very obvious (rolling the eyes), to the sublime (a microscopic squint), they speak volumes. Then, there is the inexplicable. When someone is completely lucid and confident, you can see it in the eyes. You can't describe it, but you can "see" it. It's there. Same with someone who is hurting. They can wear a happy face and smile but you can still see it in the eyes. What is that?

Perhaps someone can help here. In the book "Blink," it mentions the incredible number of muscles and microscopic movements the face and the area around the eyes can make. It's been a while, so I don't remember the exact number. Any experts in the house on this matter?

Anyway, I just find it very interesting because usually a person thinks the other person can't notice.....but they can. Example: You have a zit on the forehead. You walk up to someone and say hello. In an instant, they look at the zit and then in a millisecond look you in the eyes and play it off like you didn't see them notice. Happens all the time.

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This child is happy. You can see it in her eyes!
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OZZIE4DUKE wrote:This child is happy. You can see it in her eyes!
I see a clenched fist. She's gonna punch the cameraman..sure she's not related to Sean Penn?
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Re: The eyes DO tell...

Post by OZZIE4DUKE » May 11th, 2010, 6:18 pm

CameronBornAndBred wrote:
OZZIE4DUKE wrote:This child is happy. You can see it in her eyes!
I see a clenched fist. She's gonna punch the cameraman..sure she's not related to Sean Penn?
Nope. She's just starting to discover her hands and that they can grab things. Like chest hairs. :-o In this case, she's just practicing and strengthening her grip!
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Re: The eyes DO tell...

Post by Turk » May 11th, 2010, 7:16 pm

Love, I get so lost, sometimes
days pass and this emptiness fills my heart
when I want to run away I drive off in my car
but whichever way I go I come back to the place you are

all my instincts, they return
and the grand facade, so soon will burn
without a noise, without my pride
I reach out from the inside

(chorus)
in your eyes - the light, the heat
in your eyes - I am complete
in your eyes - I see the doorway to a thousand churches
in your eyes - the resolution of all the fruitless searches

in your eyes - I see the light and the heat
in your eyes - oh, I want to be that complete
I want to touch the light, the heat I see in your eyes

love, I don't like to see so much pain
so much wasted and this moment keeps slipping away
I get so tired of working so hard for our survival
I look to the time with you to keep me awake and alive

and all my instincts, they return
and the grand facade, so soon will burn
without a noise, without my pride
I reach out from the inside

(chorus)
in your eyes in your eyes
in your eyes in your eyes
in your eyes in your eyes
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Post by bjornolf » May 11th, 2010, 7:23 pm

EarlJam wrote:Who was it that said, "The eyes are the windows to the soul" or something like that? Years ago, I read the book "Blink," and the writer spoke much to this. It is so true. You may be able to fool people with words or fake emotions, but unless you are a sociopath, your eyes will betray you all the time. In fact, now that I think about it, "Blink" was the perfect title to that book because it only takes an instant for your eyes to involuntarily do something that gives you away. AND, there are so many ways for it to happen.

From the very obvious (rolling the eyes), to the sublime (a microscopic squint), they speak volumes. Then, there is the inexplicable. When someone is completely lucid and confident, you can see it in the eyes. You can't describe it, but you can "see" it. It's there. Same with someone who is hurting. They can wear a happy face and smile but you can still see it in the eyes. What is that?

Perhaps someone can help here. In the book "Blink," it mentions the incredible number of muscles and microscopic movements the face and the area around the eyes can make. It's been a while, so I don't remember the exact number. Any experts in the house on this matter?

Anyway, I just find it very interesting because usually a person thinks the other person can't notice.....but they can. Example: You have a zit on the forehead. You walk up to someone and say hello. In an instant, they look at the zit and then in a millisecond look you in the eyes and play it off like you didn't see them notice. Happens all the time.

Discuss? I'm off to make a sandwich.

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Re: The eyes DO tell...

Post by EarlJam » May 11th, 2010, 7:41 pm

bjornolf wrote:
EarlJam wrote:Who was it that said, "The eyes are the windows to the soul" or something like that? Years ago, I read the book "Blink," and the writer spoke much to this. It is so true. You may be able to fool people with words or fake emotions, but unless you are a sociopath, your eyes will betray you all the time. In fact, now that I think about it, "Blink" was the perfect title to that book because it only takes an instant for your eyes to involuntarily do something that gives you away. AND, there are so many ways for it to happen.

From the very obvious (rolling the eyes), to the sublime (a microscopic squint), they speak volumes. Then, there is the inexplicable. When someone is completely lucid and confident, you can see it in the eyes. You can't describe it, but you can "see" it. It's there. Same with someone who is hurting. They can wear a happy face and smile but you can still see it in the eyes. What is that?

Perhaps someone can help here. In the book "Blink," it mentions the incredible number of muscles and microscopic movements the face and the area around the eyes can make. It's been a while, so I don't remember the exact number. Any experts in the house on this matter?

Anyway, I just find it very interesting because usually a person thinks the other person can't notice.....but they can. Example: You have a zit on the forehead. You walk up to someone and say hello. In an instant, they look at the zit and then in a millisecond look you in the eyes and play it off like you didn't see them notice. Happens all the time.

Discuss? I'm off to make a sandwich.

-EarlJam
Do you ever watch the show "Lie to Me"? It deals with that a lot. They talk about micro-expressions and the eyes and all that a LOT.

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No. i have not heard of this show. I would love to see it. When and where does it come on? Thanks.

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Post by CameronBornAndBred » May 11th, 2010, 7:44 pm

Turk wrote: in your eyes in your eyes
During every one of my paintings, I listen to that song (and a bunch of other Peter Gabriel) at least once.
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Post by knights68 » May 11th, 2010, 8:32 pm

bjornolf wrote:
Do you ever watch the show "Lie to Me"? It deals with that a lot. They talk about micro-expressions and the eyes and all that a LOT.

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I was thinking of this very thing too! I enjoy the show, although I know they take certain "creative Licensing", it is TV afterall! :D
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Post by knights68 » May 11th, 2010, 8:35 pm

EarlJam wrote:
Do you ever watch the show "Lie to Me"? It deals with that a lot. They talk about micro-expressions and the eyes and all that a LOT.

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No. i have not heard of this show. I would love to see it. When and where does it come on? Thanks.

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Monday, June 7th starts the season premier (Season 2 I think).

Read up more on the show here at Fox:
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Post by bjornolf » May 12th, 2010, 8:04 am

knights68 wrote:
EarlJam wrote:
bjornolf wrote:
Do you ever watch the show "Lie to Me"? It deals with that a lot. They talk about micro-expressions and the eyes and all that a LOT.

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No. i have not heard of this show. I would love to see it. When and where does it come on? Thanks.

-EJ

Monday, June 7th starts the season premier (Season 2 I think).

Read up more on the show here at Fox:
http://www.fox.com/lietome/
It also stars one of my favorite actors, Tim Roth.

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Re: The eyes DO tell...

Post by Turk » May 12th, 2010, 12:38 pm

CameronBornAndBred wrote:
Turk wrote: in your eyes in your eyes
During every one of my paintings, I listen to that song (and a bunch of other Peter Gabriel) at least once.
Wow, I can see how "In Your Eyes" would work for an artist.... Great choice.... What about "Biko" or "Shock The Monkey"? Not so much, I suppose... :-\
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Post by Lavabe » May 12th, 2010, 1:15 pm

Turk wrote:Wow, I can see how "In Your Eyes" would work for an artist.... Great choice.... What about "Biko" or "Shock The Monkey"? Not so much, I suppose... :-\
As someone who studies primates, "Shock the Monkey" does NOTHING for me. ;)
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Post by Lavabe » May 12th, 2010, 1:21 pm

All-time weirdest EYES song:
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Post by Lavabe » May 12th, 2010, 1:33 pm

Anyone remember Marty Feldman? Somewhere on the internets is a photo of him posing/photoshopped with an aye-aye-- pronounced "eye-eye".

In the meantime, remember Young Frankenstein?
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Turk wrote:
CameronBornAndBred wrote:
Turk wrote: in your eyes in your eyes
During every one of my paintings, I listen to that song (and a bunch of other Peter Gabriel) at least once.
Wow, I can see how "In Your Eyes" would work for an artist.... Great choice.... What about "Biko" or "Shock The Monkey"? Not so much, I suppose... :-\
Both of them are on my mp3 player...and they're great. (I have the best of Peter Gabriel on the player, so they're included). Shaking The Tree is also a fun one.
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CameronBornAndBred wrote:
Turk wrote:
CameronBornAndBred wrote: During every one of my paintings, I listen to that song (and a bunch of other Peter Gabriel) at least once.
Wow, I can see how "In Your Eyes" would work for an artist.... Great choice.... What about "Biko" or "Shock The Monkey"? Not so much, I suppose... :-\
Both of them are on my mp3 player...and they're great. (I have the best of Peter Gabriel on the player, so they're included). Shaking The Tree is also a fun one.
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