So I have a problem...

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Re: So I have a problem...

Post by captmojo » August 24th, 2009, 3:45 pm

...and another thing, being the fine Baptist Church institution that they are, they should have a thorough understanding of the line...
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Re: So I have a problem...

Post by colchar » August 24th, 2009, 9:48 pm

CellR wrote:
colchar wrote:
CameronBornAndBred wrote: I was a bit surprised about having to put that on an application too. You haven't been convicted, only charged, so technically you are still innocent. That makes little sense to me. Good luck!

Up here, no university could ever as about criminal convictions on an application.
Okay, I think I need to research this a little more then.
Wake Forest's application reads this: "Have you ever had any criminal charges brought against you, except those which have resulted in a finding of not guilty or a complete dismissal?"
At this point in time I would have to answer "Yes", right?

Right now, yes you could legally answer that. Check the other applications to see how they phrase the question (if they ask it). For the record, when I said 'up here' I meant where i am in Canada. Obviously rules are different down there.
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Re: So I have a problem...

Post by Rolvix » August 24th, 2009, 9:56 pm

colchar wrote: Right now, yes you could legally answer that. Check the other applications to see how they phrase the question (if they ask it). For the record, when I said 'up here' I meant where i am in Canada. Obviously rules are different down there.

Well, after talking to one of my friends (who was there) dad, a lawyer, gave me the impression that I will have to put it on my applications. Duke's "Who We Want" section says We want some bumps. I know it's probably better not to have too many bumps, or this kind of bump, but at least they are open to people who make mistakes and learn from them.

I've had the suggestion that I should get 4 to 5 people (coaches, principal, etc.) write me character references and bring them to my court date. The person said that it might help, if the judge decides to look at them.
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Re: So I have a problem...

Post by Devil in the Blue Dress » August 24th, 2009, 9:59 pm

CellR wrote:
colchar wrote: Right now, yes you could legally answer that. Check the other applications to see how they phrase the question (if they ask it). For the record, when I said 'up here' I meant where i am in Canada. Obviously rules are different down there.

Well, after talking to one of my friends (who was there) dad, a lawyer, gave me the impression that I will have to put it on my applications. Duke's "Who We Want" section says We want some bumps. I know it's probably better not to have too many bumps, or this kind of bump, but at least they are open to people who make mistakes and learn from them.

I've had the suggestion that I should get 4 to 5 people (coaches, principal, etc.) write me character references and bring them to my court date. The person said that it might help, if the judge decides to look at them.
Have you made a decision regarding who's going to represent you in court? That's the person to listen about how to prepare for your court appearance.
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Re: So I have a problem...

Post by Rolvix » August 24th, 2009, 10:01 pm

Devil in the Blue Dress wrote: Have you made a decision regarding who's going to represent you in court? That's the person to listen about how to prepare for your court appearance.
I think my friends dad (same one) was going to contact him today.
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Re: So I have a problem...

Post by ArkieDukie » August 24th, 2009, 10:06 pm

CellR wrote:
colchar wrote: Right now, yes you could legally answer that. Check the other applications to see how they phrase the question (if they ask it). For the record, when I said 'up here' I meant where i am in Canada. Obviously rules are different down there.

Well, after talking to one of my friends (who was there) dad, a lawyer, gave me the impression that I will have to put it on my applications. Duke's "Who We Want" section says We want some bumps. I know it's probably better not to have too many bumps, or this kind of bump, but at least they are open to people who make mistakes and learn from them.

I've had the suggestion that I should get 4 to 5 people (coaches, principal, etc.) write me character references and bring them to my court date. The person said that it might help, if the judge decides to look at them.
I think you're better off including it, because: 1) Leaving it off might be viewed badly if the schools happen to find out about the incident. Honesty is always the best policy. 2) If they turn you down for something like this, chances are it's not a place where you'd be very happy. Trust me on this one. I know of schools that have such a strict policy against alcohol that you can be expelled if you're caught with alcohol anywhere off-campus - even if you're in a different town.
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Re: So I have a problem...

Post by rockymtn devil » August 24th, 2009, 10:38 pm

CellR wrote: Well, after talking to one of my friends (who was there) dad, a lawyer, gave me the impression that I will have to put it on my applications. Duke's "Who We Want" section says We want some bumps. I know it's probably better not to have too many bumps, or this kind of bump, but at least they are open to people who make mistakes and learn from them.

I've had the suggestion that I should get 4 to 5 people (coaches, principal, etc.) write me character references and bring them to my court date. The person said that it might help, if the judge decides to look at them.
Obviously follow the path suggested by your counsel. I'll simply add that you are probably under an obligation to supplement your application with any new information, including whatever may arise from this situation. Because of that, even if you were to be able to bypass the question now, there is a possibility that it has to go on the application at some point.

But, keep in mind when the applications are due. You may have a bit of time before the deadlines and, if so, it may well be worth it to allow the legal process to work itself out. At that point, you may be able to genuinely answer the question with a "no". At the very least, you'll have a better understanding of where you stand.
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Re: So I have a problem...

Post by Rolvix » August 24th, 2009, 11:30 pm

rockymtn devil wrote:
Obviously follow the path suggested by your counsel. I'll simply add that you are probably under an obligation to supplement your application with any new information, including whatever may arise from this situation. Because of that, even if you were to be able to bypass the question now, there is a possibility that it has to go on the application at some point.

But, keep in mind when the applications are due. You may have a bit of time before the deadlines and, if so, it may well be worth it to allow the legal process to work itself out. At that point, you may be able to genuinely answer the question with a "no". At the very least, you'll have a better understanding of where you stand.
I was planning on waiting until the last week to submit my applications for this very reason. I feel like it would be much better to be able to provide the whole story, as well as the after-affects at the same time. Hopefully I can genuinely answer with a "no", but probably not...
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