The Political Junkie Thread

[CameronBornAndBred]

Sounds like the SCOTUS decision to abolish Roe is having a positive effect for Dems. Indicative evidence for that is the win of Democrat Pat Ryan on Tuesdays special election in New York’s Hudson Valley.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/2 ... l-00053458

CNN is now postering that Biden’s student debt forgiveness could have the opposite effect.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/25/politics ... index.html

Unlike R-V-W, I think any debt forgiveness will have a short memory lifespan.

Lots to unpack from this past Tuesday's primaries, and we are getting pretty close to all of the congressional and gubernatorial contests being spelled out.
Again, after the recent primaries, many candidates are yelling "Foul!" and refusing to concede. The week after the mid-terms is going to be a full on shit show. I'm not sure the worms will ever be put back in their can.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

Sounds like the SCOTUS decision to abolish Roe is having a positive effect for Dems. Indicative evidence for that is the win of Democrat Pat Ryan on Tuesdays special election in New York’s Hudson Valley.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/2 ... l-00053458

CNN is now postering that Biden’s student debt forgiveness could have the opposite effect.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/25/politics ... index.html

Unlike R-V-W, I think any debt forgiveness will have a short memory lifespan.

Lots to unpack from this past Tuesday's primaries, and we are getting pretty close to all of the congressional and gubernatorial contests being spelled out.
Again, after the recent primaries, many candidates are yelling "Foul!" and refusing to concede. The week after the mid-terms is going to be a full on shit show. I'm not sure the worms will ever be put back in their can.

Republican-on-Republican voter manipulation is nothing compared to the Democrat-on-Republican voter manipulation that they will be complaining about in November. I don't think a lot of people are focused on how much damage Trump truly did to American democracy with his refuse to admit defeat garbage. No matter what proof you provide that an election was legitimate or even that any of the minimal fraud taking place was being done by Republicans, no one believes it.

I think the debt forgiveness was really poorly handled, but I also agree that it will be largely forgotten soon enough. The student loan process is a mess and I thought that Biden was taking his time and would come out with a comprehensive plan to reform it - set better guidelines for interest rates, target schools that don't have huge numbers of students who don't repay their loans, more targeted programs to forgive debt for teachers, nurses, etc., perhaps set a cap on the total amount of loans someone could take out. Instead, there is this band aid that I don't think made anyone happy. Those who didn't really like it to begin with (such as me) are not happy that he did it. And the progressives who were strongly in favor of it don't think it is enough.

[OPK]

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[CameronBornAndBred]

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Cancelled!

[OPK]

Boom goes the dynamite.

Garland has Trump dead to rights. Last night’s filing is tight.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Boom goes the dynamite.

Garland has Trump dead to rights. Last night’s filing is tight.

I woke up to this news, so am reading on it now. While it wouldn't have changed anything for the DOJ, it sure doesn't help Trump, and exposes his legal team for the buffoons they are appearing to be.
"What's that you say? You want a special master? How about no...and here's why. For all of your supporters to see."

[CameronBornAndBred]

Here's a good quote, at the heart of everything.

“That the FBI, in a matter of hours, recovered twice as many documents with classification markings as the ‘diligent search’ that the former President’s counsel and other representatives had weeks to perform calls into serious question the representations made in the June 3 certification and casts doubt on the extent of cooperation in this matter,” DOJ wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/31/politics ... index.html

Those lawyers might want to be also looking for lawyers.

[Phredd3]

Boom goes the dynamite.

Garland has Trump dead to rights. Last night’s filing is tight.

I didn't get a chance to look at it until now, but now that I have, I agree. This looks really ugly for FPOTUS. Wow.

[OPK]

Here's a good quote, at the heart of everything.

“That the FBI, in a matter of hours, recovered twice as many documents with classification markings as the ‘diligent search’ that the former President’s counsel and other representatives had weeks to perform calls into serious question the representations made in the June 3 certification and casts doubt on the extent of cooperation in this matter,” DOJ wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/31/politics ... index.html

Those lawyers might want to be also looking for lawyers.

In all seriousness, if I was the lawyer or person that signed the certification, I would have my lawyer on the phone to the prosecutor this morning trying to cut a deal.

[Phredd3]

In all seriousness, if I was the lawyer or person that signed the certification, I would have my lawyer on the phone to the prosecutor this morning trying to cut a deal.

"lawyer OR person"? I didn't expect that, coming from you.

[OPK]

In all seriousness, if I was the lawyer or person that signed the certification, I would have my lawyer on the phone to the prosecutor this morning trying to cut a deal.

"lawyer OR person"? I didn't expect that, coming from you.

[CameronBornAndBred]

In all seriousness, if I was the lawyer or person that signed the certification, I would have my lawyer on the phone to the prosecutor this morning trying to cut a deal.

And on cue...

Two lawyers for former President Donald J. Trump are likely to become witnesses or targets in the investigation into how he hoarded documents marked as classified at Mar-a-Lago, his Florida estate — and secretly held onto some even after the lawyers claimed all sensitive materials had been returned, legal specialists said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ce0f529704

Also, from the same article, just because it's cool.

“If the Justice Department is going to pursue criminal charges, any prosecutor is going to want to have on the record the full picture of what happened, which will require the testimony of all the witnesses with the relevant knowledge — and that certainly includes lawyers here,” said Samuel Buell, a Duke University professor of criminal law and former prosecutor.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

Here's a good quote, at the heart of everything.

“That the FBI, in a matter of hours, recovered twice as many documents with classification markings as the ‘diligent search’ that the former President’s counsel and other representatives had weeks to perform calls into serious question the representations made in the June 3 certification and casts doubt on the extent of cooperation in this matter,” DOJ wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/31/politics ... index.html

Those lawyers might want to be also looking for lawyers.

I have not been following this as closely as I should be, so will defer to those here who have (I appreciate the helpful updates): are these offenses that can stick to Trump, or, like most everything else, will he be able to throw others (such as the lawyers) under the bus and claim that they acted without him knowing what was happening? That is my biggest fear.

It is amazing that in most other areas, the boss gets the blame for failure to manage - CEOs of huge corporations lose jobs for the behavior of some low paid worker in a branch office in Topeka that the CEO didn't even know existed. But Trump constantly manages to avoid responsibility for the behavior of those who often report directly to him.

[Phredd3]

Here's a good quote, at the heart of everything.

“That the FBI, in a matter of hours, recovered twice as many documents with classification markings as the ‘diligent search’ that the former President’s counsel and other representatives had weeks to perform calls into serious question the representations made in the June 3 certification and casts doubt on the extent of cooperation in this matter,” DOJ wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/31/politics ... index.html

Those lawyers might want to be also looking for lawyers.

I have not been following this as closely as I should be, so will defer to those here who have (I appreciate the helpful updates): are these offenses that can stick to Trump, or, like most everything else, will he be able to throw others (such as the lawyers) under the bus and claim that they acted without him knowing what was happening? That is my biggest fear.

It is amazing that in most other areas, the boss gets the blame for failure to manage - CEOs of huge corporations lose jobs for the behavior of some low paid worker in a branch office in Topeka that the CEO didn't even know existed. But Trump constantly manages to avoid responsibility for the behavior of those who often report directly to him.

Documents were seized from INSIDE the working desk in the '45 Office', which was what they called Trump's private office space. Other documents were in the room, and Trump's passports were found intermingled in the same drawer. I think it will be hard for any jury not to conclude that Trump was fully aware.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Documents were seized from INSIDE the working desk in the '45 Office', which was what they called Trump's private office space. Other documents were in the room, and Trump's passports were found intermingled in the same drawer. I think it will be hard for any jury not to conclude that Trump was fully aware.

"I barely knew that desk, I don't even know where it came from. Melania probably got it at a yard sale."

[CameronBornAndBred]

Well here's a nice early Christmas present.

Democrat Mary Peltola won the special election for Alaska’s only U.S. House seat on Wednesday, besting a field that included Republican Sarah Palin, who was seeking a political comeback in the state where she was once governor.

It's only round one, since all of them are showing up again in November.

All three - Peltola, Palin and Begich - are candidates in the November general election, seeking a two-year House term that would start in January.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/special-elec ... 53552.html

[ArkieDukie]

Well here's a nice early Christmas present.

Democrat Mary Peltola won the special election for Alaska’s only U.S. House seat on Wednesday, besting a field that included Republican Sarah Palin, who was seeking a political comeback in the state where she was once governor.

It's only round one, since all of them are showing up again in November.

All three - Peltola, Palin and Begich - are candidates in the November general election, seeking a two-year House term that would start in January.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/special-elec ... 53552.html

Yes. Palin’s loss gives me great hope. Was really afraid the original Lauren Boebert would win.

[OPK]

Interesting factoid: the judge hearing the special master motion today graduated from Duke in 2003 (and then magna cum laude from the University of Michigan law school). Also spent seven years as a AUSA in The Southern District of Florida (prosecutor in the major crimes division and then the appellate division) so likely knows some of the folks on the DOJ side. And as reported, a Trump appointee although I don’t think that counts for too much. Hope not to be disappointed ….

And most important: she was a Tri-Delt.

[Phredd3]

Well here's a nice early Christmas present.

Democrat Mary Peltola won the special election for Alaska’s only U.S. House seat on Wednesday, besting a field that included Republican Sarah Palin, who was seeking a political comeback in the state where she was once governor.

It's only round one, since all of them are showing up again in November.

All three - Peltola, Palin and Begich - are candidates in the November general election, seeking a two-year House term that would start in January.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/special-elec ... 53552.html

Apart from defeating Palin and Begich, who both have far greater name recognition in Alaska, it is noteworthy that she is the fist Native Alaskan to serve in Congress. She is Yup'ik, and grew up in very rural Alaska. The tribe's ancestral range is along the western coast of Alaska, from the area around the Yukon Delta down to Bristol Bay.

Of course, the real significance here is that, if the Russians do come, Peltola will see them before Sarah Palin, although even Peltola is unlikely to see them from her house.