LTE 2.0
Moderator: CameronBornAndBred
- Sue71
- Graduate Student at PWing school
- Posts: 1108
- Joined: April 9th, 2009, 1:39 am
- Location: Viva Las Vegas
Re: LTE 2.0
The Stray Cats & The J. Geils Band were/are underrated. Discuss.
You don't walk the plank in NJ. You just disappear. Forever.
- Lavabe
- PWing School Chancellor
- Posts: 11122
- Joined: April 8th, 2009, 8:02 pm
- Location: Land of the Lost, Kentucky (pining for the fjords of Madagascar)
Re: LTE 2.0
Brian Setzer is the Mozart of the 1980s generation.Sue71 wrote:The Stray Cats & The J. Geils Band were/are underrated. Discuss.
2014, 2011, and 2009 Lemur Loving CTN NASCAR Champ. No lasers were used to win these titles.
- Bostondevil
- Graduate Student at PWing school
- Posts: 1491
- Joined: April 9th, 2009, 9:43 am
- Location: Massachusetts, duh.
Re: LTE 2.0
You're just saying that cause you've got cat class and you've got cat style. ;)
The time is out of joint, O cursed spite!
- YmoBeThere
- PWing School Endowed Professor
- Posts: 6912
- Joined: April 13th, 2009, 7:36 pm
- Location: South Central...Tejas
Re: LTE 2.0
I have two cats...but have been very busy the last few days.
- captmojo
- PWing School Endowed Professor
- Posts: 5096
- Joined: April 12th, 2009, 12:20 pm
- Location: It's lonely out in space on such a timeless flight.
Re: LTE 2.0
Oobah Goobah wid da green teeth?Sue71 wrote:,,,The J. Geils Band were/are underrated. Discuss.
J. Geils "Full House", I wore the grooves out!
"Backboards? Backboards? I'll show'em what to do with a f%#kin' backboard!"
- YmoBeThere
- PWing School Endowed Professor
- Posts: 6912
- Joined: April 13th, 2009, 7:36 pm
- Location: South Central...Tejas
Re: LTE 2.0
(I don't really know any stray cats)YmoBeThere wrote:I have two cats...but have been very busy the last few days.
- DukeUsul
- PWing School Assistant Professor
- Posts: 2390
- Joined: April 14th, 2009, 9:30 am
- Location: Back in the dirty Jerz
- Contact:
Re: LTE 2.0
It actually does. Herbert weaves a lot of Islamic religion and culture into his novel. It's a sci-fi story set way in the future, but the people that Usul belonged to (actually he was "adopted" into their culture) are meant to be descendants of Muslims. So there are many words he has these people use in the novels that are taken from Islam and Arabic. In the book they describe usul meaning "the base of the pillar" - which I can see being quite similar to its meaning as "fundamentals."wilson wrote:Its far older association is with regard to Islamic law. The term usul ul fiqh refers to the fundamentals or origins of Islamic law (where "usul" refers to fundamentals and "fiqh" is law). I doubled in religion and history at Duke, and my undergrad advisor is a fairly renowned scholar of Islam, so this is what I always think of when I read your handle.DukeUsul wrote:
No, it's actually ooo-sul.
The name is taken from a character in Frank Herbert's Dune. If you want to hear it pronounced, here's a clip from the very horrible David Lynch (1984) film adaptation. The bearded guy says Usul when Kyle MacLachlan walks up to him (about 0:39) and then again later around 3:00.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld2DMsyy0go
Does the notion of fundamentals or origins have anything to do with the Dune character (I've never read the book or seen the film)?
If you are curious, here is a list of Dune terminology. You may notice a lot pulled from Islam and Arabic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dune_terminology
And an article on the novel's Arabic and Islamic themes.
http://baheyeldin.com/literature/arabic ... -dune.html
It's a fantastic novel and one of the great classics of Sci-Fi. Some sci-fi novels are about spaceships and lasers. This one really isn't about the technologies. It's about the people, power struggles, slavery, essential resources, ecology, politics.
-- DukeUsul
- DukeUsul
- PWing School Assistant Professor
- Posts: 2390
- Joined: April 14th, 2009, 9:30 am
- Location: Back in the dirty Jerz
- Contact:
Re: LTE 2.0
Wilson from that second link:
FYI: The Fremen are the people in the novel who adopt and give Usul his name.Fremen: 'The base of the pillar.' This is the name given to Paul by the Fremem Chieftain Stilgar. The Arabic root A-S-L means "base". Usul is the plural, and is used for "basis", "principles", "methods" as well, like in Usul Al Fiqh which is the science of principles of jurisprudence.
-- DukeUsul
Re: LTE 2.0
I've often said the same about both Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, pretty much the only two works of sci-fi/fantasy I've ever really gotten into. I really should give Dune a shot someday.DukeUsul wrote:
It's a fantastic novel and one of the great classics of Sci-Fi. Some sci-fi novels are about spaceships and lasers. This one really isn't about the technologies. It's about the people, power struggles, slavery, essential resources, ecology, politics.
- DukeUsul
- PWing School Assistant Professor
- Posts: 2390
- Joined: April 14th, 2009, 9:30 am
- Location: Back in the dirty Jerz
- Contact:
Re: LTE 2.0
Would you like me to send you an article on how the half of Star Wars that wasn't taken from Tolkien was actually taken from Herbert?wilson wrote:I've often said the same about both Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, pretty much the only two works of sci-fi/fantasy I've ever really gotten into. I really should give Dune a shot someday.DukeUsul wrote:
It's a fantastic novel and one of the great classics of Sci-Fi. Some sci-fi novels are about spaceships and lasers. This one really isn't about the technologies. It's about the people, power struggles, slavery, essential resources, ecology, politics.
Definitely give Dune a shot.
-- DukeUsul
- DukeUsul
- PWing School Assistant Professor
- Posts: 2390
- Joined: April 14th, 2009, 9:30 am
- Location: Back in the dirty Jerz
- Contact:
Re: LTE 2.0
But not the film. The book. The film is tripe. Fun tripe, but tripe nonetheless.
-- DukeUsul
Re: LTE 2.0
I'll be honest: It's gonna take an act of God for me to get through the book anytime soon. I am planning a couple of interludes of a day or two in the near future where I'm not going to do much, though. I really will try.DukeUsul wrote:But not the film. The book. The film is tripe. Fun tripe, but tripe nonetheless.
Or at least I'll think about trying.
- DukeUsul
- PWing School Assistant Professor
- Posts: 2390
- Joined: April 14th, 2009, 9:30 am
- Location: Back in the dirty Jerz
- Contact:
Re: LTE 2.0
What are you doing something important right now? :lol: :lol: :lol:wilson wrote:I'll be honest: It's gonna take an act of God for me to get through the book anytime soon. I am planning a couple of interludes of a day or two in the near future where I'm not going to do much, though. I really will try.DukeUsul wrote:But not the film. The book. The film is tripe. Fun tripe, but tripe nonetheless.
Or at least I'll think about trying.
-- DukeUsul
- OZZIE4DUKE
- PWing School Chancellor
- Posts: 14412
- Joined: April 8th, 2009, 7:43 pm
- Location: Home! Watching carolina Go To Hell! :9f:
Re: LTE 2.0
I LOVE J. Geils Band! First I Look at the Purse was a great driving song.Sue71 wrote:The Stray Cats & The J. Geils Band were/are underrated. Discuss.
I saw them live over at State at their Joe College Weekend in April 1974or5? Also saw Rare Earth, who was my favorite band at the time - Get Ready, another great driving song!
Your paradigm of optimism
Go To Hell carolina! Go To Hell!
9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F!
http://ecogreen.greentechaffiliate.com
Go To Hell carolina! Go To Hell!
9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F! 9F!
http://ecogreen.greentechaffiliate.com
- DevilAlumna
- Graduate Student at PWing school
- Posts: 1300
- Joined: April 10th, 2009, 12:13 am
- Location: Woodinville, Wa
Re: LTE 2.0
I watched part of the Children of Dune DVD series with Mr. DA. It was interesting and visually appealing, but since I didn't know much of the story, I was really just digging a young, shirtless James McAvoy.
He's aged nicely.
But why is he always shirtless?
I'm not complaining, mind you.
He's aged nicely.
But why is he always shirtless?
I'm not complaining, mind you.
- Bostondevil
- Graduate Student at PWing school
- Posts: 1491
- Joined: April 9th, 2009, 9:43 am
- Location: Massachusetts, duh.
Re: LTE 2.0
I've been into a shirtless Josh Holloway a lot lately.
The time is out of joint, O cursed spite!
- DevilAlumna
- Graduate Student at PWing school
- Posts: 1300
- Joined: April 10th, 2009, 12:13 am
- Location: Woodinville, Wa
Re: LTE 2.0
Worthy, very worthy.Bostondevil wrote:I've been into a shirtless Josh Holloway a lot lately.
But what will George think of this mental infidelity?
- DevilAlumna
- Graduate Student at PWing school
- Posts: 1300
- Joined: April 10th, 2009, 12:13 am
- Location: Woodinville, Wa
Re: LTE 2.0
Hey, I finally broke 300 posts. I'm like the anti-PW over here, in comparison to my DBR stats. (I've virtually stopped posting over there, and I'm still not falling very far in the ranks.)
- DevilAlumna
- Graduate Student at PWing school
- Posts: 1300
- Joined: April 10th, 2009, 12:13 am
- Location: Woodinville, Wa
Re: LTE 2.0
At the risk of having three posts uninterrupted here (and thus looking like a PW):
I was wondering on the drive home, does 9F have relevance here?
I mean, it does come from the DBR Handy Pocket Reference.
I think here, GTH,C,GTH would pretty much be 1A.
Pirates are probably 1b, with lemurs 1c?
I was wondering on the drive home, does 9F have relevance here?
I mean, it does come from the DBR Handy Pocket Reference.
I think here, GTH,C,GTH would pretty much be 1A.
Pirates are probably 1b, with lemurs 1c?
- Bostondevil
- Graduate Student at PWing school
- Posts: 1491
- Joined: April 9th, 2009, 9:43 am
- Location: Massachusetts, duh.
Re: LTE 2.0
But we have Ozzie and wherever Ozzie goes, 9F is relevant.
Don't worry, George remains my one and only 'Get Out of Jail Free' card. I've just been watching so much 'Lost' that I've developped an appreciation for a shirtless Mr. Holloway. Have you been reading my thread on the DBR?
Don't worry, George remains my one and only 'Get Out of Jail Free' card. I've just been watching so much 'Lost' that I've developped an appreciation for a shirtless Mr. Holloway. Have you been reading my thread on the DBR?
The time is out of joint, O cursed spite!