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Cheater School Update
Posted: October 22nd, 2014, 1:13 pm
by CameronBornAndBred
The latest report on academic fraud at the University of North Carolina could result in the loss of employment for some university faculty members, sources close to the investigation told WRAL Wednesday.
Of course no mention of any loss of scholarships, eligibility, or athletic department jobs. It's all the fault of those damn teachers! Sigh.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/wainstein- ... /14104255/
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 22nd, 2014, 1:19 pm
by lawgrad91
3100 students involved in these classes, of which approximately 48% were athletes.
But of course there isn't any collusion to keep athletes eligible....
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 22nd, 2014, 1:40 pm
by DukePA
Stevo kills me. He is immersed in the anemic blue koolaid. Although he finally acknowledged what happened and that it was wrong, he still believes Dadgum Deputy Dawg Roy knew nothing. His excuse is that it stopped in 2005 and Roy had only been there since 2003. I call bullshit. There is no Roy didn't know. After reading the timeline in the N&O article, I have no idea where Stevo gets the "it ended in 2005" idea. Absurd.
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 22nd, 2014, 3:07 pm
by DevilWearsPrada2.0
lawgrad91 wrote:3100 students involved in these classes, of which approximately 48% were athletes.
But of course there isn't any collusion to keep athletes eligible....
3100 students! Probably alot more!
on Wral and Wtvd news.
GTHC
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 22nd, 2014, 4:39 pm
by Lavabe
I just read about this in the Chronicle of Higher Education.
Holy #$%^@%$#^!!
The quote that sticks out is: "One revelation in Wednesday's report is that far more people were involved in the fraud than was previously known." As for Roy:
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 22nd, 2014, 5:56 pm
by devildeac
lawgrad91 wrote:3100 students involved in these classes, of which approximately 48% were athletes.
But of course there isn't any collusion to keep athletes eligible....
C'mon, it was
only 48%. Nothing to see here children. Move along now.
Wonder if Cleveland State needs to be working on their appeal yet...
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 22nd, 2014, 9:57 pm
by lawgrad91
DukePA wrote:Stevo kills me. He is immersed in the anemic blue koolaid. Although he finally acknowledged what happened and that it was wrong, he still believes Dadgum Deputy Dawg Roy knew nothing. His excuse is that it stopped in 2005 and Roy had only been there since 2003. I call bullshit. There is no Roy didn't know. After reading the timeline in the N&O article, I have no idea where Stevo gets the "it ended in 2005" idea. Absurd.
ESPN's crawler just said it ended in 2011.
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 22nd, 2014, 11:32 pm
by DukePA
lawgrad91 wrote:DukePA wrote:Stevo kills me. He is immersed in the anemic blue koolaid. Although he finally acknowledged what happened and that it was wrong, he still believes Dadgum Deputy Dawg Roy knew nothing. His excuse is that it stopped in 2005 and Roy had only been there since 2003. I call bullshit. There is no Roy didn't know. After reading the timeline in the N&O article, I have no idea where Stevo gets the "it ended in 2005" idea. Absurd.
ESPN's crawler just said it ended in 2011.
Aha! Thank you, LG, Sis.
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 6:03 am
by YmoBeThere
All I can think right now is "Liar, liar, pants on fire."
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 6:14 am
by OZZIE4DUKE
YmoBeThere wrote:All I can think right now is "Liar, liar, pants on fire."
Our "JR can't read chant" now rings of the truth!
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 7:35 am
by ArkieDukie
I really don't see how the NCAA can ignore this report. If they do, several schools should pitch a fit. The most notable one, IMHO, is UConn. As much as I'm not a fan of the 'Victs, they were suspended from postseason play for poor academic progress. Given the lengths that UNC went to in order to maintain player eligibility, a lack of punishment sends the message that UNC's bogus major route is more acceptable than UConn's legit academics route. At the very least, UNC should be forced to vacate any championships gained through the use of otherwise ineligible players. They should also get at least a one-year ban on postseason play.
This only takes the academic fraud issue into account. If one takes the illegal benefits (i.e. rental cars) issue into account, is UNC in line for even harsher penalties?
Okay, NCAA, you're up. Let's see you step up and do the right thing. And I don't mean imposing penalties on Cleveland State.
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 8:16 am
by CameronBornAndBred
devildeac wrote:lawgrad91 wrote:3100 students involved in these classes, of which approximately 48% were athletes.
But of course there isn't any collusion to keep athletes eligible....
C'mon, it was
only 48%. Nothing to see here children. Move along now.
Wonder if Cleveland State needs to be working on their appeal yet...
I wonder what the percentage of the overall student population at Carolina is. Think it's 48%? ;) CSU better have some good lawyers.
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 8:26 am
by bjornolf
CNN has an article about it too. They say it went on until 2011, and that Butch Davis admitted knowing there were "easy classes". Article also says a lot of non-revenue athletes benefitted too, and there was a huge uptick in "Olympic" event athletes attending UNC during that period.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/us/unc-re ... ?hpt=hp_t2
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 9:27 am
by lawgrad91
Front page of Bob Green's local paper, The Virginian Pilot. (Thanks to Mom's subscription being linked to my email-so she can read the obituaries when she comes to visit-I get to see it too.)
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 11:25 am
by devildeac
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 11:44 am
by DukePA
Yeah, but we can't hold our collective breath. As one of my Wuffie PA school classmates said, "the Heels are the luckiest bastards."
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 1:46 pm
by Very Duke Blue
This morning, Gail King said unc is a good school but tarnished..blablabla...Charlie Rose said "Unless they are playing Duke:
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 1:52 pm
by Devil in the Blue Dress
I think it's too early to know what sort of consequences will follow and who will determine them. Based on what this investigation has turned up, there's plenty to deal with.
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 3:11 pm
by DukePA
Very Duke Blue wrote:This morning, Gail King said unc is a good school but tarnished..blablabla...Charlie Rose said "Unless they are playing Duke:
Gail King's son graduated from Duke in '09. I'm guessing she was trying to be diplomatic
Re: Cheater School Update
Posted: October 23rd, 2014, 6:07 pm
by CameronBornAndBred
The national press is on this in a very harsh tone. I'm enjoying reading all the stories...there are a countless number condemning UNC's systematic betrayal of the system to achieve athletic success at the expense of academics. There are too many voices for the NCAA to not take a significant action. We all worry they will turn a deaf ear; I don't see it this time.