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Of all the recent celebrity deaths, this one has been the hardest for me. I am a diehard Tennessee Titans fan and Steve McNair and Eddie George are still my football idols. Steve was the QB of my childhood, he was the first QB I came to love. And now he is gone. I am really at a loss for words. From all the great moments; Music City Miracle, 2003 MVP, Super Bowl Run in 2000; to the not so good ones; One yard short, interception v Baltimore in 2001 Divisional playoffs against the Ravens that Ray Lewis housed; I still love Steve McNair. He will be missed by all Tennessee fans, especially me.

First and only time I saw him play was in Pittsburgh in 2004. I couldn't believe how big the guy was, and the Titans won the game that day. Today is a tough day for me.

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Man this has been a bad couple of months for celebrities. Steve McNair, former Tennessee Titans and Baltimore Ravens QB, was found shot to death with an unidentified woman who was also shot to death. The way they're talking, it sounds like an outside shooter, not a murder/suicide type thing. How sad. I wonder if this was at all similar to the Sean Taylor thing?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

I don't know how reliable this site is, but they're saying that the woman is NOT McNair's wife, who was in Mississippi at the time, but his 20 year old "girlfriend". CNN seems to back this up.

http://www.faniq.com/article/Steve-McNa ... nd-1734266

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/04/mcn ... index.html

Ben63 wrote:Of all the recent celebrity deaths, this one has been the hardest for me. I am a diehard Tennessee Titans fan and Steve McNair and Eddie George are still my football idols. Steve was the QB of my childhood, he was the first QB I came to love. And now he is gone. I am really at a loss for words. From all the great moments; Music City Miracle, 2003 MVP, Super Bowl Run in 2000; to the not so good ones; One yard short, interception v Baltimore in 2001 Divisional playoffs against the Ravens that Ray Lewis housed; I still love Steve McNair. He will be missed by all Tennessee fans, especially me.

First and only time I saw him play was in Pittsburgh in 2004. I couldn't believe how big the guy was, and the Titans won the game that day. Today is a tough day for me.

I know what you mean, Ben. I started rooting for the Titans when they became "The Titans" (after they dropped the Oilers.) I lived in Nashvile from 2001-2003, and occassionally saw McNair and George out on the town. (There was a posh bar near campus that they visited. And yeah, they were just chill, nice guys out of the uniform.) But Music City Miracle and "one yard short" will live in football history. And McNair, he was a beast of a quarterback - when he dropped his head to get that extra yard, you know it hurt the guy on defense. Just sad.

Similar emotions here. I moved to Nashville in August of 1999 and remember the spirit and emotion of the city all the way to the Super Bowl. And even though they ended one yard short, it didn't diminish the event at all.

I was never a Titan's fan, but I was always a McNair fan. I followed him as he set records at Alcorn State; I remember never even hearing of that school before he was there. It was great to see a black QB go so high in the draft from such a small school, and it was even better to see him succeed in the NFL for such a long career. At least the other celebrities who passed recently died of natural causes; it is truly depressing that McNair's life was robbed from him by someone else.

CameronBornAndBred wrote:I was never a Titan's fan, but I was always a McNair fan. I followed him as he set records at Alcorn State; I remember never even hearing of that school before he was there. It was great to see a black QB go so high in the draft from such a small school, and it was even better to see him succeed in the NFL for such a long career. At least the other celebrities who passed recently died of natural causes; it is truly depressing that McNair's life was robbed from him by someone else.

Adultery can be hazardous to your health.

I was listening to the Mike & Mike Show this morning, and they had clips from the supervisor of the investigation into McNair's death. He said it's officially a murder/suicide. Apparently, Kazemi, the 20 year old girlfriend, had told friends and family for a week or so that she thought McNair had ANOTHER woman (that makes three by my count), and that she was depressed and thinking of "ending it all". She had financial difficulties. Apparently, she was making the payments on the Escalade she co-owned with McNair. Further, her roommate was moving out, which means her effective rent payment would double.

Anyway, I guess what I don't understand is that if her family and friends loved her, why didn't they try to get her some help when she was saying these things? Maybe they did, but obviously they didn't try hard enough. Maybe they didn't take her seriously. In any event, the whole thing is just tragic.

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bjornolf wrote:Anyway, I guess what I don't understand is that if her family and friends loved her, why didn't they try to get her some help when she was saying these things? Maybe they did, but obviously they didn't try hard enough. Maybe they didn't take her seriously. In any event, the whole thing is just tragic.

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Why are you so critical of her friends and family when you have no idea what they did try to do?

TillyGalore wrote:

bjornolf wrote:Anyway, I guess what I don't understand is that if her family and friends loved her, why didn't they try to get her some help when she was saying these things? Maybe they did, but obviously they didn't try hard enough. Maybe they didn't take her seriously. In any event, the whole thing is just tragic.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... r-suicide/

Why are you so critical of her friends and family when you have no idea what they did try to do?

You're right, I have no idea what they were trying to do. However, if my wife told me those things, I'd be trying to get her evaluated to see if she needed to be institutionalized for her own safety. I wouldn't leave her alone for a second. Even if Kazemi's friends and family couldn't have gotten her help in time, they could have at least gotten a report filed that would have kept her from purchasing the gun in question, which she supposedly bought just a day or two before the incident. If she was really that depressed that she was SAYING these things to her friends, I would think they'd try not to leave her alone. I had an acquaintance a few years ago who was similarly depressed. Her friends and family worked out a schedule so that she was never alone until they could get her help. Luckily, she's doing better now. However, I certainly see your point.

My wife pointed out that the wording is a little confusing as well. Maybe her friends and family misunderstood her and thought she just meant she was going to break things off with McNair. Since we don't know the EXACT wording or the context of what she was saying, I guess that's possible. Unless I find out more, I'll go ahead and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Well, she saved McNair's wife from the hell of divorcing him and having to deal with him post-divorce. And Mechelle McNair won't have to split half of the marital assets with him.

Why didn't McNair buy the bimbo a car outright? Giving her a car that's encumbered with payments isn't really giving her a gift, is it? Stupid woman, stupider man. . .

CathyCA wrote:Well, she saved McNair's wife from the hell of divorcing him and having to deal with him post-divorce. And Mechelle McNair won't have to split half of the marital assets with him.

Why didn't McNair buy the bimbo a car outright? Giving her a car that's encumbered with payments isn't really giving her a gift, is it? Stupid woman, stupider man. . .

I was wondering that too. I mean, what's the point of being the "other woman" to a famous rich guy if you don't get anything good for it? The least he coulda done in my book is by her the car and maybe even the condo. The only thing I could think of was that it was part of hiding it from his wife. He didn't think he could hide such large ticket purchases from her, whereas he might have been able to hide the down payment on the car.