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QB depth
Posted: April 6th, 2011, 3:10 pm
by CameronBornAndBred
http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/2 ... his-spring
Duke coach David Cutcliffe wouldn’t exactly call his offensive playbook a secret, but the Blue Devils learned this spring that they have enough depth and talent at the quarterback position that there could be a few surprises this fall for opposing defenses.
Just how many quarterbacks Cutcliffe will use remains to be seen, but with the emergence of redshirt freshman Anthony Boone, the Blue Devils might be able to go three-deep at the position.
“People will find out when they find out,” Cutcliffe said. “I’m thankful we have four guys with the talent level they have.”
I will not be thrilled if we see 3 QB's playing in one game. I'm not thrilled when we see 2 QB's playing in one game. I don't know what it is about Duke coaches..they all seem to love this strategy.
Re: QB depth
Posted: April 6th, 2011, 3:27 pm
by devildeac
CameronBornAndBred wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/2 ... his-spring
Duke coach David Cutcliffe wouldn’t exactly call his offensive playbook a secret, but the Blue Devils learned this spring that they have enough depth and talent at the quarterback position that there could be a few surprises this fall for opposing defenses.
Just how many quarterbacks Cutcliffe will use remains to be seen, but with the emergence of redshirt freshman Anthony Boone, the Blue Devils might be able to go three-deep at the position.
“People will find out when they find out,” Cutcliffe said. “I’m thankful we have four guys with the talent level they have.”
I will not be thrilled if we see 3 QB's playing in one game. I'm not thrilled when we see 2 QB's playing in one game. I don't know what it is about Duke coaches..they all seem to love this strategy.
Yea, but think about this. Renfrey takes the snap, pitches the ball back to Connette on the option who throws a "lateral" to Boone who has lined up as a WR and has just stepped 2 yards behind Connette so as not to make it a forward pass. Boone then looks downfield and sees a wide open Renfrey at the unc 2 yard line where he hits him with a perfect spiral and he falls into the end zone (without fumbling) for the game winning TD to finish off our 12-0 season and much anticipated trip to the ACC championship game.
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excuse me while I go pee in a cup now )
Re: QB depth
Posted: April 6th, 2011, 4:11 pm
by wilson
CB&B, I'm baggin' what you're rakin', but with regard to QBs, I'll pretty much always defer to Coach Cut.
And hey! Devildeac! Puff, puff, pass, bro!
Re: QB depth
Posted: April 7th, 2011, 2:15 pm
by The Football Fan
I can see why someone would not want to see all 3 QBs play. If #1 is the best player on your team, you should want it in their hands as much as possible. The idea being that they give you the best chance to win. That's hard to argue with. If Renfree has all 4 downs at the end of the game against Boston College, the outcome may have been different.
Still, I don't think this is about the trick play toss to the goal line. This is a more strategic philosophy done to maximize the advantages of your team as a whole. Think Stanford.
One of the things Stanford utilized to confuse defenses was installing an offense with tremendous variation in how they lined up and did a variety of things with those formations. I think Coach Cut is trying to do something similar. A team's play book may have hundreds of plays, but ultimately, during game week that is whittled down to a fraction of what's available based on what the coaches believe will be successful against their opponent. Then during the week they focus on the execution of the plays they most expect to run against that week's opponent.
By using multiple quarterbacks with different skill sets, they all practice different sets of plays. Then they have a greater number of plays at their disposal during any given game. I think Coach Cut and Luke were going after guys on the O-Line that had some brains and adaptability. I think they've got two redshirt Freshman in Laken and Takoby that worked with Anthony Boone all last season. My guess is it's not just the QB that changes, but the whole offensive grouping. What happens is a defense has to prepare for offensive schemes of 3 teams in one week...they'll be a pistol offense, option, pro-style, and probably something else. All teams do this to some extent, but their ability to excel at any given system largely depends on the people running the plays. Duke should have the players to make each grouping successful and hopefully an offensive juggernaut. Hey, it's the spring, I don't have to be a realist...it's possible.
Of course, I have no inside knowledge, so who knows, but that's my guess. Who knows if it'll work, but I'll trust Cutcliffe.
Re: QB depth
Posted: April 9th, 2011, 11:23 am
by Bob Green
CameronBornAndBred wrote:
I will not be thrilled if we see 3 QB's playing in one game. I'm not thrilled when we see 2 QB's playing in one game.
I'm of the opinion the more snaps Renfree takes the better our chances of winning. Connette did some good things last season but I believe the offense became too predictable when he was in the game. I definitely do not want to see the snaps shared by three quarterbacks. However, I would not be opposed to seeing Boone line-up as a slot receiver with Renfree at QB. That would make the defense prepare for Duke running a wide open attack. Having two QBs on the field for two or three plays a game could shake things up.
The down side to having Boone in the slot for a couple of plays is it moves one of our receivers off the field and receiver is our most talented position.
What I highly desire to see is for Duke to establish a running game with Desmond Scott and Josh Snead. If we can successfully run the ball, it will open up the passing game and allow Renfree, Varner, Vernon and Helfet to rip defenses to shreds. When we reach a point that opponents have to legitimately focus upon stopping our running game, we will have taken a big step toward achieving success on the Gridiron. I'm optimistic, with the steady progress that has been made along the offensive line, 2011 is the year we successfully run the ball. My number one remaining concern is replacing Bryan Morgan at center.
Bob
Re: QB depth
Posted: April 9th, 2011, 1:22 pm
by devildeac
devildeac wrote:CameronBornAndBred wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/2 ... his-spring
Duke coach David Cutcliffe wouldn’t exactly call his offensive playbook a secret, but the Blue Devils learned this spring that they have enough depth and talent at the quarterback position that there could be a few surprises this fall for opposing defenses.
Just how many quarterbacks Cutcliffe will use remains to be seen, but with the emergence of redshirt freshman Anthony Boone, the Blue Devils might be able to go three-deep at the position.
“People will find out when they find out,” Cutcliffe said. “I’m thankful we have four guys with the talent level they have.”
I will not be thrilled if we see 3 QB's playing in one game. I'm not thrilled when we see 2 QB's playing in one game. I don't know what it is about Duke coaches..they all seem to love this strategy.
Yea, but think about this. Renfrey takes the snap, pitches the ball back to Connette on the option who throws a "lateral" to Boone who has lined up as a WR and has just stepped 2 yards behind Connette so as not to make it a forward pass. Boone then looks downfield and sees a wide open Renfrey at the unc 2 yard line where he hits him with a perfect spiral and he falls into the end zone (without fumbling) for the game winning TD to finish off our 12-0 season and much anticipated trip to the ACC championship game.
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excuse me while I go pee in a cup now )
I was kinda figuring no one would really take this possibility seriously, that's why I put the "pee in a cup" comment at the bottom of the post. I could see the potential/trickery of having 2 QB on the field at the same time for a play or two with the run/pass or HB/WR option play but nothing like the fantasy scenario I described above.