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I wonder if Abraham Lincoln ever just sat down and thought to himself, "Damn, this shit SUCKS."

I really do wonder that.

-EarlJam

EarlJam wrote:I wonder if Abraham Lincoln ever just sat down and thought to himself, "Damn, this shit SUCKS."

I really do wonder that.

-EarlJam

I'm virtually positive that he did. As a moderate, he fielded consistent, vitriolic criticism from all sides, and he made no secret of the fact that he found our national schism to be terribly traumatic. His handling of the Civil War and all of the political troubles that pervaded his presidency consistently indicated that he held reconciliation as the very highest end goal. I'm sure that, throughout his time in office, he said something like that to himself just about every day.

wilson wrote:

EarlJam wrote:I wonder if Abraham Lincoln ever just sat down and thought to himself, "Damn, this shit SUCKS."

I really do wonder that.

-EarlJam

I'm virtually positive that he did. As a moderate, he fielded consistent, vitriolic criticism from all sides, and he made no secret of the fact that he found our national schism to be terribly traumatic. His handling of the Civil War and all of the political troubles that pervaded his presidency consistently indicated that he held reconciliation as the very highest end goal. I'm sure that, throughout his time in office, he said something like that to himself just about every day.

have you read Team of Rivals? Excellent book about the Lincoln Presidency.

ArkieDukie wrote:

wilson wrote:

EarlJam wrote:I wonder if Abraham Lincoln ever just sat down and thought to himself, "Damn, this shit SUCKS."

I really do wonder that.

-EarlJam

I'm virtually positive that he did. As a moderate, he fielded consistent, vitriolic criticism from all sides, and he made no secret of the fact that he found our national schism to be terribly traumatic. His handling of the Civil War and all of the political troubles that pervaded his presidency consistently indicated that he held reconciliation as the very highest end goal. I'm sure that, throughout his time in office, he said something like that to himself just about every day.

have you read Team of Rivals? Excellent book about the Lincoln Presidency.

I haven't read that, but I will, sight unseen, highly recommend any of Doris Kearns Goodwin's work. I have no doubt that it is excellent.

wilson wrote:

ArkieDukie wrote:have you read Team of Rivals? Excellent book about the Lincoln Presidency.

I haven't read that, but I will, sight unseen, highly recommend any of Doris Kearns Goodwin's work. I have no doubt that it is excellent.

Incidentally, since we're all sports nuts here, her book Wait 'Til Next Year is terrific. It's a memoir of the role that baseball played in her childhood, in a family "equally divided between Dodger, Giant, and Yankee fans."

I would read anything Doris Kearns Goodwin wrote, up to and possibly including a telephone book.