Beach Ogling...

[Shammrog]

My recent beach trip (and for that matter forays to the neighborhood pool) have brought to mind a question that has vexed me for some time.

The springing of spring, and then summer, gives the opportunity for both plants and young women to blossom. That said, there are a *multitude* of very attractive young women to ogle. And - while I am happily married and devoted to my beautiful wife, I do. (Ogle, that is.)

Some of these young ladies are, well, young. At what age does ogling (no action mind you - just looking!) by an adult (say age 25+) become sick and depraved? As opposed to just normal male piggishness.

[devildeac]

Too much trouble to get into here. Next question, please...

[Shammrog]

Too much trouble to get into here. Next question, please...

Oh, come on now! It's ANONYMOUS! (And, ogling only.)

[CameronBornAndBred]

You will have to wear a blindfold until you ask them their age. At which point they will determine you sick and depraved anyways.

[windsor]

which brings to mind a story...not beach ogling but ogling. A hundred years ago when my daughter was ice skating I was at the rink while she was having a private lesson. Out on the ice with another coach was a young woman 'Miss X' skating in basically a dance leoatard and tights. She was built better than a brick shithouse.

I was sitting with the father of another skater (his daughter was 12 at the time) - and he made a 'wow get a load of THAT' comment about 'Miss X' - I looked at him, smiled, and said 'you know she's 13 right?'. coffee spewed...face turned red...poor guy about stroked out on me. he tried to babble some 'I had no idea' apology but couldn't even get a sentance together.

So guys I ask you...are you checking I.Ds before you ogle?

[devildeac]

which brings to mind a story...not beach ogling but ogling. A hundred years ago when my daughter was ice skating I was at the rink while she was having a private lesson. Out on the ice with another coach was a young woman 'Miss X' skating in basically a dance leoatard and tights. She was built better than a brick shithouse.

I was sitting with the father of another skater (his daughter was 12 at the time) - and he made a 'wow get a load of THAT' comment about 'Miss X' - I looked at him, smiled, and said 'you know she's 13 right?'. coffee spewed...face turned red...poor guy about stroked out on me. he tried to babble some 'I had no idea' apology but couldn't even get a sentance together.

So guys I ask you...are you checking I.Ds before you ogle?

see my comment above :oops:

[CathyCA]

Suppose some guy were ogling your daughter?

Sham, you are a perv.

[Bostondevil]

The key is to ogle without getting caught! Shammrog, I recommend super dark sunglasses. If you aren't doing anything about it, who cares if you look?

That said, 13 is Lolitaville.

[Shammrog]

Suppose some guy were ogling your daughter?

Sham, you are a perv.

Yeah, but she is 7! Not even among the options!

Note: I am not endorsing any particular age. I am just asking the question...

Other observations:

1. No, there is no ID check. This could get you in trouble.
2. Ogling is at best semi-intentional. Once a young woman develops womanly features and looks like, well, a woman, the ogler may even unconsciously find himself ogling.
3. This ogling can be brought on by the oglee; such as through a. skimpy bathing suits, b. navel piercings, and c. any other things that are SPECIFICALLY intended to induce ogling. Even if dirty old men are not the intended oglers.

[wilson]

Yeah, but she is 7! Not even among the options!

Note: I am not endorsing any particular age. I am just asking the question...

Other observations:

1. No, there is no ID check. This could get you in trouble.
2. Ogling is at best semi-intentional. Once a young woman develops womanly features and looks like, well, a woman, the ogler may even unconsciously find himself ogling.
3. This ogling can be brought on by the oglee; such as through a. skimpy bathing suits, b. navel piercings, and c. any other things that are SPECIFICALLY intended to induce ogling. Even if dirty old men are not the intended oglers.

Nice shovel. You hoping to get to China today?

[Johnboy]

Just face the facts, people: men are pigs. We simply can't help it. I'm 45 years old. I have ogled girls 1/3 my age, just like the guy in Windsor's example. I wish it would stop, but it doesn't, or hasn't so far.

Example: Just last night I was sitting at a table in a restaurant with a friend and my 14 year old son. A young girl with a bodacious rack walked in and by our table. We were all thunderstruck.
Me: "Brown. They're brown."
My friend: "What?"
Me: "Her eyes are brown. (turning to my son) You have to know the answer to that question in these situations. You know, in case you're asked. Just be sure to notice her eye color - it's useful information."
My son just grinned.

Edited to add: I'm not proud of it, but Shammrog has it about right.

[Shammrog]

Just face the facts, people: men are pigs. We simply can't help it. I'm 45 years old. I have ogled girls 1/3 my age, just like the guy in Windsor's example. I wish it would stop, but it doesn't, or hasn't so far.

Example: Just last night I was sitting at a table in a restaurant with a friend and my 14 year old son. A young girl with a bodacious rack walked in and by our table. We were all thunderstruck.
Me: "Brown. They're brown."
My friend: "What?"
Me: "Her eyes are brown. (turning to my son) You have to know the answer to that question in these situations. You know, in case you're asked. Just be sure to notice her eye color - it's useful information."
My son just grinned.

Edited to add: I'm not proud of it, but Shammrog has it about right.

Johnboy, thank you for your honesty!

Wilson - don't even PRETEND that you're immune....!

[CathyCA]

Suppose some guy were ogling your daughter?

Sham, you are a perv.

Yeah, but she is 7! Not even among the options!

Note: I am not endorsing any particular age. I am just asking the question...

Other observations:

1. No, there is no ID check. This could get you in trouble.
2. Ogling is at best semi-intentional. Once a young woman develops womanly features and looks like, well, a woman, the ogler may even unconsciously find himself ogling.
3. This ogling can be brought on by the oglee; such as through a. skimpy bathing suits, b. navel piercings, and c. any other things that are SPECIFICALLY intended to induce ogling. Even if dirty old men are not the intended oglers.

One day your daughter will be 13 and she will have a rack or the beginnings of one. You will be ready to kill the first perv who ogles your daughter. Don't blink. Those six years will pass quickly.

[wilson]

Wilson - don't even PRETEND that you're immune....!

Of course I'm not. But I know better than to start a whole damn thread about it.
Plus, I'm about 15 years younger than you...not even close to Dirty Old Man status. ;)

[Shammrog]

Wilson - don't even PRETEND that you're immune....!

Of course I'm not. But I know better than to start a whole damn thread about it.
Plus, I'm about 15 years younger than you...not even close to Dirty Old Man status. ;)

Hey - this is crazietalk; a place to discuss pertinent social issues of the day.

15 YEARS?!?! Maybe in pesos. Try, oh... 9...

[wilson]

15 YEARS?!?! Maybe in pesos. Try, oh... 9...

Actually, I just checked, and it's 11. But that whole "wife and daughter" thing ups your score in the Dirty Old Man category, too.
Face it, Shamm: You're considerably older and dirtier than I am.

[Shammrog]

Suppose some guy were ogling your daughter?

Sham, you are a perv.

Yeah, but she is 7! Not even among the options!

Note: I am not endorsing any particular age. I am just asking the question...

Other observations:

1. No, there is no ID check. This could get you in trouble.
2. Ogling is at best semi-intentional. Once a young woman develops womanly features and looks like, well, a woman, the ogler may even unconsciously find himself ogling.
3. This ogling can be brought on by the oglee; such as through a. skimpy bathing suits, b. navel piercings, and c. any other things that are SPECIFICALLY intended to induce ogling. Even if dirty old men are not the intended oglers.

One day your daughter will be 13 and she will have a rack or the beginnings of one. You will be ready to kill the first perv who ogles your daughter. Don't blink. Those six years will pass quickly.

Very true. I will of course not ogle my own daughter, and will kill any dirty old man who does.

Hence, as stated above - for reasons of personal safety:

1. Do NOT check ID. This tips them off.
2. Dark glasses - already thought of and implemented (hat tip to Bostondevil!)

[Shammrog]

15 YEARS?!?! Maybe in pesos. Try, oh... 9...

Actually, I just checked, and it's 11. But that whole "wife and daughter" thing ups your score in the Dirty Old Man category, too.
Face it, Shamm: You're considerably older and dirtier than I am.

True, but you are definitely on track.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Nice shovel. You hoping to get to China today?

POTD!!!

[Johnboy]

I'm also very glad I don't have daughters. I am trying to raise my two boys to be gentlemen. Note my advice to my son - if you require yourself to actually study the face of your oglee well enough to discern her eye color, it's harder to objectify her.

I prefer to call it "scoping" to "ogling" anyway.