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Okay, this is for the smart science people that went to Duke or anywhere.

The sun is 93 million miles (rounded) from the sun, right? Okay, if the Earth suddenly shifted orbit and became 5 million miles further from the sun, how much would it basically farkle things up? How about 5 million miles closer?

Just asking.

-EarlJam

I don't think it would have much an effect.

Earth has an elliptical orbit around the sun which varies between 94.4 million miles and 91.3 million miles.

Do you watch "The Universe"? It's a great show and I think you'd lots of fun watching. You should check it out if you haven't already.

EarlJam wrote:Okay, this is for the smart science people that went to Duke or anywhere.

The sun is 93 million miles (rounded) from the sun, right? Okay, if the Earth suddenly shifted orbit and became 5 million miles further from the sun, how much would it basically farkle things up? How about 5 million miles closer?

Just asking.

-EarlJam

Either way, it would seriously affect the global warming crowd. And fuck up the rest of us pretty badly too.

EarlJam wrote:The sun is 93 million miles (rounded) from the sun, right? Okay, if the Earth suddenly shifted orbit and became 5 million miles further from the sun, how much would it basically farkle things up? How about 5 million miles closer?
-EarlJam

I will of course defer to anyone who knows an astronomer... HOWEVER...
In what universe could the sun be 93 million miles from itself? ;)

Lavabe wrote:

EarlJam wrote:The sun is 93 million miles (rounded) from the sun, right? Okay, if the Earth suddenly shifted orbit and became 5 million miles further from the sun, how much would it basically farkle things up? How about 5 million miles closer?
-EarlJam

I will of course defer to anyone who knows an astronomer... HOWEVER...
In what universe could the sun be 93 million miles from itself? ;)

In a universe where space time was curved, and there were 11 dimensions?

windsor wrote:

Lavabe wrote:

EarlJam wrote:The sun is 93 million miles (rounded) from the sun, right? Okay, if the Earth suddenly shifted orbit and became 5 million miles further from the sun, how much would it basically farkle things up? How about 5 million miles closer?
-EarlJam

I will of course defer to anyone who knows an astronomer... HOWEVER...
In what universe could the sun be 93 million miles from itself? ;)

In a universe where space time was curved, and there were 11 dimensions?

And don't forget the space time continuum.

windsor wrote:

Lavabe wrote:

EarlJam wrote:The sun is 93 million miles (rounded) from the sun, right? Okay, if the Earth suddenly shifted orbit and became 5 million miles further from the sun, how much would it basically farkle things up? How about 5 million miles closer?
-EarlJam

I will of course defer to anyone who knows an astronomer... HOWEVER...
In what universe could the sun be 93 million miles from itself? ;)

In a universe where space time was curved, and there were 11 dimensions?

Or, maybe this one? http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1985 ... ce=r_space

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So somewhere out there, in a galaxy far, far away, a long time ago, there arose a New Hope...

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EarlJam wrote: The sun is 93 million miles (rounded) from the sun, right?

Wrong! The sun is in exactly the same place as the sun. It is not 93 million miles away from itself.

Okay, if the Earth suddenly shifted orbit and became 5 million miles further from the sun, how much would it basically farkle things up? How about 5 million miles closer?

Not sure, but it would definitely affect climate because of the increase or decrease in light, heat, and solar radiation.

The distance to the Sun might not affect climate as much as you think. You can find more details here but it's not the distance to the Sun that affects climate, it's the tilt of the Earth in relation to it's elliptical orbit around the Sun. In fact, we are closer to the Sun during winter, and further from the Sun in summer.

Miles wrote:The distance to the Sun might not affect climate as much as you think. You can find more details here but it's not the distance to the Sun that affects climate, it's the tilt of the Earth in relation to it's elliptical orbit around the Sun. In fact, we are closer to the Sun during winter, and further from the Sun in summer.

Climate can be affected by subtle changes in the orbit (eccentricity) and changes in the tilt of the earth's axis; both change somewhat over longer periods. I used to work with a paleoecologist. Check out this link to Milankovith cycles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles


But no Milankovitch cycles are going to explain how the sun could get 93 million miles away from itself at the same time. Windsor's right... there has to be 11 dimensional curved (or tapered) space to explain EJ's scenario. And that's messing with the space time continuum. And none of us is going to do that without Doc! ;)

Lavabe wrote:

Miles wrote:The distance to the Sun might not affect climate as much as you think. You can find more details here but it's not the distance to the Sun that affects climate, it's the tilt of the Earth in relation to it's elliptical orbit around the Sun. In fact, we are closer to the Sun during winter, and further from the Sun in summer.

Climate can be affected by subtle changes in the orbit (eccentricity) and changes in the tilt of the earth's axis; both change somewhat over longer periods. I used to work with a paleoecologist. Check out this link to Milankovith cycles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles


But no Milankovitch cycles are going to explain how the sun could get 93 million miles away from itself at the same time. Windsor's right... there has to be 11 dimensional curved (or tapered) space to explain EJ's scenario. And that's messing with the space time continuum. And none of us is going to do that without Doc! ;)

Wesley Crusher and the Traveler could help too!

OZZIE4DUKE wrote:

Lavabe wrote:

Miles wrote:The distance to the Sun might not affect climate as much as you think. You can find more details here but it's not the distance to the Sun that affects climate, it's the tilt of the Earth in relation to it's elliptical orbit around the Sun. In fact, we are closer to the Sun during winter, and further from the Sun in summer.

Climate can be affected by subtle changes in the orbit (eccentricity) and changes in the tilt of the earth's axis; both change somewhat over longer periods. I used to work with a paleoecologist. Check out this link to Milankovith cycles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles


But no Milankovitch cycles are going to explain how the sun could get 93 million miles away from itself at the same time. Windsor's right... there has to be 11 dimensional curved (or tapered) space to explain EJ's scenario. And that's messing with the space time continuum. And none of us is going to do that without Doc! ;)

Wesley Crusher and the Traveler could help too!

Lavabe wrote:

Miles wrote:The distance to the Sun might not affect climate as much as you think. You can find more details here but it's not the distance to the Sun that affects climate, it's the tilt of the Earth in relation to it's elliptical orbit around the Sun. In fact, we are closer to the Sun during winter, and further from the Sun in summer.

Climate can be affected by subtle changes in the orbit (eccentricity) and changes in the tilt of the earth's axis; both change somewhat over longer periods. I used to work with a paleoecologist. Check out this link to Milankovith cycles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles


But no Milankovitch cycles are going to explain how the sun could get 93 million miles away from itself at the same time. Windsor's right... there has to be 11 dimensional curved (or tapered) space to explain EJ's scenario. And that's messing with the space time continuum. And none of us is going to do that without Doc! ;)

Cool link thanks. I think Milankovitch cycles help explain what I was trying to say. I didn't mean to imply that climate wouldn't be affected at all. It would appear that it wouldn't be affected as much as people think. So in response to EarlJam's question, maybe it wouldn't farkle up the climate too bad.

It might farkle up the calendar as changing the distance to the Sun would have some affect on the Earth's rotation and orbit, so days and years could be shorter/longer.

OZZIE4DUKE wrote:

Lavabe wrote:

Miles wrote:The distance to the Sun might not affect climate as much as you think. You can find more details here but it's not the distance to the Sun that affects climate, it's the tilt of the Earth in relation to it's elliptical orbit around the Sun. In fact, we are closer to the Sun during winter, and further from the Sun in summer.

Climate can be affected by subtle changes in the orbit (eccentricity) and changes in the tilt of the earth's axis; both change somewhat over longer periods. I used to work with a paleoecologist. Check out this link to Milankovith cycles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles


But no Milankovitch cycles are going to explain how the sun could get 93 million miles away from itself at the same time. Windsor's right... there has to be 11 dimensional curved (or tapered) space to explain EJ's scenario. And that's messing with the space time continuum. And none of us is going to do that without Doc! ;)

Wesley Crusher and the Traveler could help too!

I saw an interesting documentary recently explaining how changes in the location of the earth's magnetic poles (within the next 50 years Magnetic North will be in Russia as opposed to Canada!) affects climate.

colchar wrote:I saw an interesting documentary recently explaining how changes in the location of the earth's magnetic poles (within the next 50 years Magnetic North will be in Russia as opposed to Canada!) affects climate.

Our cold shooting today affected the climate more than our distance from the sun.

I don't like St. John's.