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Advice needed

Posted: September 24th, 2010, 11:31 am
by August West
I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? :-? Thanks in advance, AW.

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 24th, 2010, 11:46 am
by CathyCA
August West wrote:I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? :-? Thanks in advance, AW.
Oh boy. So much goes into this.

What do the suits look like? Which shirt will you choose? Which tie? How about your socks? And your shoes?

In which suit do you feel most comfortable?

What kind of firm is this? Is it a dark suit firm, or is it a business casual place, or somewhere in between?

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 24th, 2010, 12:11 pm
by devildeac
CathyCA wrote:
August West wrote:I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? :-? Thanks in advance, AW.
Oh boy. So much goes into this.

What do the suits look like? Which shirt will you choose? Which tie? How about your socks? And your shoes?

In which suit do you feel most comfortable?

What kind of firm is this? Is it a dark suit firm, or is it a business casual place, or somewhere in between?
Cathy's correct. It's not easy. Several starter suggestions:

1. Make the socks match the suit.
2. Make sure your shoes are shined and match your suit.
3. Belt must match your shoes (brown/brown; black/black)
4. No loafers.
5. Have someone help you co-ordinating your suit/shirt/tie combo. I'd start with a white shirt or ecru or basic/business blue. Conservative tie pattern and colors with stripes or dots or diamonds or small paisleys.

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 24th, 2010, 12:21 pm
by knights68
August West wrote:I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? :-? Thanks in advance, AW.
go for the gray suit unless you see people there who wear suites everyday all day, in which case go blue.
Blue is considered more formal, so keep that in mind to the environment yuou are headed in to.

I supposed ultimately, the true answer is whicever suit you look better or feel better in

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 24th, 2010, 10:46 pm
by EarlJam
knights68 wrote:
August West wrote:I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? :-? Thanks in advance, AW.
go for the gray suit unless you see people there who wear suites everyday all day, in which case go blue.
Blue is considered more formal, so keep that in mind to the environment yuou are headed in to.

I supposed ultimately, the true answer is whicever suit you look better or feel better in
I think the issue is being made too complicated. Here's the deal: "Wear what you will be most confident in."

Period.

-EarlJam

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 24th, 2010, 10:59 pm
by OZZIE4DUKE
Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 1:56 am
by CameronBornAndBred
OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
What he said. :ymapplause:

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 6:32 am
by CathyCA
CameronBornAndBred wrote:
OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
What he said. :ymapplause:
If you're interviewing with me, what you're wearing matters. I'm certain there are others out there who notice whether the shoes are shined, the shirt was pressed, the belt matches the shoes, the socks were appropriate, the teeth were brushed, the nails were trimmed, etc.,

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 7:49 am
by bjornolf
What's the deal with socks? I've heard so many different things. Are they supposed to match the belt/shoes, or the pants, or the shirt (yes, I've heard shirt before, though I assume that's wrong)?

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Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 8:13 am
by CathyCA
bjornolf wrote:What's the deal with socks? I've heard so many different things. Are they supposed to match the belt/shoes, or the pants, or the shirt (yes, I've heard shirt before, though I assume that's wrong)?

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Socks should match the shoes. So, if you're wearing brown shoes, wear brown socks that match the shoes. Black shoes get black socks. White sneakers get white socks.

The idea is to create a monochromatic line from shoes to the cuff or hem of the pants.

Also, make sure that the socks aren't turned inside out.

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 8:24 am
by captmojo
CathyCA wrote:
Also, make sure that the socks aren't turned inside out.
I've heard that this was a good way to keep from getting sand and rocks in your shoes. :twitch:

On to a more serious note, everything said before is true. The only thing I'd add is that the look should speak 'Success'. When you do the mirror-check thingy, ask yourself if that's what you see, then, carry that attitude forward.
I've been a successful bullshit slinger for my entire life!


Maybe I should consider a shot at Bison shit-slinging. :-? :whistle:

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 8:59 am
by indoor66
I'm more in the EJ and Ozzie camp. They will be hiring the person, not the clothing.

That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.

Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 9:04 am
by CathyCA
indoor66 wrote:I'm more in the EJ and Ozzie camp. They will be hiring the person, not the clothing.

That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.

Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.
AW's hair is already neatly trimmed, as is the beard. And we already know that he'll show a pleasant, respectful attitude with enthusiasm for life and the job. And have you ever seen AW when he's NOT smiling? :D

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 10:48 am
by CameronBornAndBred
CathyCA wrote:
CameronBornAndBred wrote:
OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
What he said. :ymapplause:
If you're interviewing with me, what you're wearing matters. I'm certain there are others out there who notice whether the shoes are shined, the shirt was pressed, the belt matches the shoes, the socks were appropriate, the teeth were brushed, the nails were trimmed, etc.,
August West is going to look fine in either suit. It's not like he pondering jeans or slacks. As Ozzie said, "if both suits look good on you". Just don't screw up and wear a ball cap as an accessory!

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 11:31 am
by indoor66
CathyCA wrote:
indoor66 wrote:I'm more in the EJ and Ozzie camp. They will be hiring the person, not the clothing.

That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.

Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.
AW's hair is already neatly trimmed, as is the beard. And we already know that he'll show a pleasant, respectful attitude with enthusiasm for life and the job. And have you ever seen AW when he's NOT smiling? :D
I wouldn't know AW from Adams housecat. I am only responding to the thread. IMO, he has a great chance to succeed from the fact that he asked the question on the board he did! :D

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 1:33 pm
by DevilAlumna
CathyCA wrote:
CameronBornAndBred wrote:
OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
What he said. :ymapplause:
If you're interviewing with me, what you're wearing matters. I'm certain there are others out there who notice whether the shoes are shined, the shirt was pressed, the belt matches the shoes, the socks were appropriate, the teeth were brushed, the nails were trimmed, etc.,
You must not interview too many software engineers. You'd have a lot of open headcount with those expectations. ;)

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 1:33 pm
by DevilAlumna
CathyCA wrote:
CameronBornAndBred wrote:
OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
What he said. :ymapplause:
If you're interviewing with me, what you're wearing matters. I'm certain there are others out there who notice whether the shoes are shined, the shirt was pressed, the belt matches the shoes, the socks were appropriate, the teeth were brushed, the nails were trimmed, etc.,
You must not interview too many software engineers. You'd have a lot of open headcount with those expectations. ;)

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 1:48 pm
by devildeac
CathyCA wrote:
indoor66 wrote:I'm more in the EJ and Ozzie camp. They will be hiring the person, not the clothing.

That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.

Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.
AW's hair is already neatly trimmed, as is the beard. And we already know that he'll show a pleasant, respectful attitude with enthusiasm for life and the job. And have you ever seen AW when he's NOT smiling? :D
Yester*ay ab*ut 6 PM he was n*t smiling.

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 26th, 2010, 5:03 pm
by CathyCA
DevilAlumna wrote: You must not interview too many software engineers. You'd have a lot of open headcount with those expectations. ;)
No, thankfully I don't. I spent 20 years trying to teach ExLax that it's against the rules to wear black socks with sneakers or sandals. It was a losing battle.

Mostly, I interview paralegals and law students.

This reminds me: one of the things that I enjoyed about living in California is that you couldn't tell who had money and who didn't from the way they dressed. Bazillionnaire dot-commers dressed like complete slobs. Consequently, store clerks and restaurant wait staff were extremely courteous and helpful to everyone.

Re: Advice needed

Posted: September 27th, 2010, 8:00 am
by Ima Facultiwyfe
Tomorrow's the big day. Good luck, AW. Keep us posted. :wizard:
Love, Ima