Advice needed
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Advice needed
I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? Thanks in advance, AW.
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Re: Advice needed
Oh boy. So much goes into this.August West wrote:I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? Thanks in advance, AW.
What do the suits look like? Which shirt will you choose? Which tie? How about your socks? And your shoes?
In which suit do you feel most comfortable?
What kind of firm is this? Is it a dark suit firm, or is it a business casual place, or somewhere in between?
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Cathy's correct. It's not easy. Several starter suggestions:CathyCA wrote:Oh boy. So much goes into this.August West wrote:I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? Thanks in advance, AW.
What do the suits look like? Which shirt will you choose? Which tie? How about your socks? And your shoes?
In which suit do you feel most comfortable?
What kind of firm is this? Is it a dark suit firm, or is it a business casual place, or somewhere in between?
1. Make the socks match the suit.
2. Make sure your shoes are shined and match your suit.
3. Belt must match your shoes (brown/brown; black/black)
4. No loafers.
5. Have someone help you co-ordinating your suit/shirt/tie combo. I'd start with a white shirt or ecru or basic/business blue. Conservative tie pattern and colors with stripes or dots or diamonds or small paisleys.
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Re: Advice needed
go for the gray suit unless you see people there who wear suites everyday all day, in which case go blue.August West wrote:I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? Thanks in advance, AW.
Blue is considered more formal, so keep that in mind to the environment yuou are headed in to.
I supposed ultimately, the true answer is whicever suit you look better or feel better in
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I think the issue is being made too complicated. Here's the deal: "Wear what you will be most confident in."knights68 wrote:go for the gray suit unless you see people there who wear suites everyday all day, in which case go blue.August West wrote:I have a big job interview on next Tuesday afternoon. Should I wear my dark, almost black suit, or my grey one? Thanks in advance, AW.
Blue is considered more formal, so keep that in mind to the environment yuou are headed in to.
I supposed ultimately, the true answer is whicever suit you look better or feel better in
Period.
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Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
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What he said.OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
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If you're interviewing with me, what you're wearing matters. I'm certain there are others out there who notice whether the shoes are shined, the shirt was pressed, the belt matches the shoes, the socks were appropriate, the teeth were brushed, the nails were trimmed, etc.,CameronBornAndBred wrote:What he said.OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
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What's the deal with socks? I've heard so many different things. Are they supposed to match the belt/shoes, or the pants, or the shirt (yes, I've heard shirt before, though I assume that's wrong)?
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Socks should match the shoes. So, if you're wearing brown shoes, wear brown socks that match the shoes. Black shoes get black socks. White sneakers get white socks.bjornolf wrote:What's the deal with socks? I've heard so many different things. Are they supposed to match the belt/shoes, or the pants, or the shirt (yes, I've heard shirt before, though I assume that's wrong)?
The idea is to create a monochromatic line from shoes to the cuff or hem of the pants.
Also, make sure that the socks aren't turned inside out.
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I've heard that this was a good way to keep from getting sand and rocks in your shoes.CathyCA wrote:
Also, make sure that the socks aren't turned inside out.
On to a more serious note, everything said before is true. The only thing I'd add is that the look should speak 'Success'. When you do the mirror-check thingy, ask yourself if that's what you see, then, carry that attitude forward.
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I'm more in the EJ and Ozzie camp. They will be hiring the person, not the clothing.
That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.
Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.
That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.
Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.
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AW's hair is already neatly trimmed, as is the beard. And we already know that he'll show a pleasant, respectful attitude with enthusiasm for life and the job. And have you ever seen AW when he's NOT smiling?indoor66 wrote:I'm more in the EJ and Ozzie camp. They will be hiring the person, not the clothing.
That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.
Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.
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August West is going to look fine in either suit. It's not like he pondering jeans or slacks. As Ozzie said, "if both suits look good on you". Just don't screw up and wear a ball cap as an accessory!CathyCA wrote:If you're interviewing with me, what you're wearing matters. I'm certain there are others out there who notice whether the shoes are shined, the shirt was pressed, the belt matches the shoes, the socks were appropriate, the teeth were brushed, the nails were trimmed, etc.,CameronBornAndBred wrote:What he said.OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
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I wouldn't know AW from Adams housecat. I am only responding to the thread. IMO, he has a great chance to succeed from the fact that he asked the question on the board he did!CathyCA wrote:AW's hair is already neatly trimmed, as is the beard. And we already know that he'll show a pleasant, respectful attitude with enthusiasm for life and the job. And have you ever seen AW when he's NOT smiling?indoor66 wrote:I'm more in the EJ and Ozzie camp. They will be hiring the person, not the clothing.
That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.
Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.
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You must not interview too many software engineers. You'd have a lot of open headcount with those expectations. ;)CathyCA wrote:If you're interviewing with me, what you're wearing matters. I'm certain there are others out there who notice whether the shoes are shined, the shirt was pressed, the belt matches the shoes, the socks were appropriate, the teeth were brushed, the nails were trimmed, etc.,CameronBornAndBred wrote:What he said.OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
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You must not interview too many software engineers. You'd have a lot of open headcount with those expectations. ;)CathyCA wrote:If you're interviewing with me, what you're wearing matters. I'm certain there are others out there who notice whether the shoes are shined, the shirt was pressed, the belt matches the shoes, the socks were appropriate, the teeth were brushed, the nails were trimmed, etc.,CameronBornAndBred wrote:What he said.OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Unless you're interviewing with the DevilwearsArmani, they are hiring a man (in your case), not a suit. If both suits look good on you, it doesn't matter.
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Yester*ay ab*ut 6 PM he was n*t smiling.CathyCA wrote:AW's hair is already neatly trimmed, as is the beard. And we already know that he'll show a pleasant, respectful attitude with enthusiasm for life and the job. And have you ever seen AW when he's NOT smiling?indoor66 wrote:I'm more in the EJ and Ozzie camp. They will be hiring the person, not the clothing.
That said, it is important that the clothing be clean, well pressed and neat. Also the shoes MUST be shined and the fingernails clean and trimmed, hair trimmed neatly and combed appropriately.
Beyond that, you should show a pleasant, respectful attitude, enthusiasm for life and the job and keep smiling. GO GET 'EM.
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No, thankfully I don't. I spent 20 years trying to teach ExLax that it's against the rules to wear black socks with sneakers or sandals. It was a losing battle.DevilAlumna wrote: You must not interview too many software engineers. You'd have a lot of open headcount with those expectations. ;)
Mostly, I interview paralegals and law students.
This reminds me: one of the things that I enjoyed about living in California is that you couldn't tell who had money and who didn't from the way they dressed. Bazillionnaire dot-commers dressed like complete slobs. Consequently, store clerks and restaurant wait staff were extremely courteous and helpful to everyone.
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Tomorrow's the big day. Good luck, AW. Keep us posted.
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