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ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 14th, 2010, 6:49 pm
by CameronBornAndBred
Sorry Hokies...not sure how you got the boot, and Wake got in. Bright side, not a chance in hell that the holes are in the NIT. Hokies and Wolfpack look better for that tourney.

Re: ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 14th, 2010, 7:43 pm
by devildeac
CameronBornAndBred wrote:Sorry Hokies...not sure how you got the boot, and Wake got in. Bright side, not a chance in hell that the holes are in the NIT. Hokies and Wolfpack look better for that tourney.
Wow. I haven't watched much yet. But ya gotta have better than a SOS or RPI better than ~140 to get the invite. Oh, and not lay an egg in the 1st round of the ACCT. That is still a bit surprising as they were 10-6 in the regular season, IIRC. Or was it 9-7. I'm surprised the d**** got an invite after their sleep-walking vs um. Oh, and their loss to the 'holes at home.

Re: ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 14th, 2010, 8:02 pm
by bjornolf
devildeac wrote:
CameronBornAndBred wrote:Sorry Hokies...not sure how you got the boot, and Wake got in. Bright side, not a chance in hell that the holes are in the NIT. Hokies and Wolfpack look better for that tourney.
Wow. I haven't watched much yet. But ya gotta have better than a SOS or RPI better than ~140 to get the invite. Oh, and not lay an egg in the 1st round of the ACCT. That is still a bit surprising as they were 10-6 in the regular season, IIRC. Or was it 9-7. I'm surprised the d**** got an invite after their sleep-walking vs um. Oh, and their loss to the 'holes at home.
The Hokies were 10-6, and they did have an RPI of 59, which was better than a couple teams that got in. I definitely think their early exit in the ACCT is what killed them. To be fair, they did schedule a couple teams that could have helped their SOS in Temple, Iowa, Georgia, and Seton Hall. I don't think they expected some of those to HURT their SOS.

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Re: ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 14th, 2010, 10:11 pm
by devildeac
bjornolf wrote:
devildeac wrote:
CameronBornAndBred wrote:Sorry Hokies...not sure how you got the boot, and Wake got in. Bright side, not a chance in hell that the holes are in the NIT. Hokies and Wolfpack look better for that tourney.
Wow. I haven't watched much yet. But ya gotta have better than a SOS or RPI better than ~140 to get the invite. Oh, and not lay an egg in the 1st round of the ACCT. That is still a bit surprising as they were 10-6 in the regular season, IIRC. Or was it 9-7. I'm surprised the d**** got an invite after their sleep-walking vs um. Oh, and their loss to the 'holes at home.
The Hokies were 10-6, and they did have an RPI of 59, which was better than a couple teams that got in. I definitely think their early exit in the ACCT is what killed them. To be fair, they did schedule a couple teams that could have helped their SOS in Temple, Iowa, Georgia, and Seton Hall. I don't think they expected some of those to HURT their SOS.

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Musta been their SOS that I remember at ~140 from some recent games. I agree they shoulda been chosen but I am no Seethe Greenturd fan so I don't feel much sorrow for them.

Re: ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 15th, 2010, 10:11 am
by Jesus_hurley
Hokies non-conference SOS was something like 339 out of 343. That's not going to cut it. Add that to a loss to the 'holes and a first round exit in the tourney. But they should have been in and Wake should have gone to the NIT. And the 'holes should have been in the CBI.

Re: ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 15th, 2010, 12:16 pm
by bjornolf
Jesus_hurley wrote:Hokies non-conference SOS was something like 339 out of 343. That's not going to cut it. Add that to a loss to the 'holes and a first round exit in the tourney. But they should have been in and Wake should have gone to the NIT. And the 'holes should have been in the CBI.
I agree 100%. I wasn't trying to make excuses for VT or make it sound like they got jobbed. I'm just saying they had no way of knowing that Seton Hall, Iowa, and Georgia were all gonna suck and pull their SOS DOWN. That's all I was saying.

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Re: ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 15th, 2010, 12:27 pm
by Lavabe
As much as I criticize Seth G. for his and his team's intolerable behavior at some of the recent games he has had in the ACC, the guy was classy in his interview yesterday on ESPN's selection show roundup. He refused to be baited into responding to a question as to what team should have been bumped out of the NCAA's in place of VTech. He recognized that responding to that question would have ruined a number of students' moments of celebration. Even Knight commented positively on Seth's response.

Re: ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 15th, 2010, 12:39 pm
by Jesus_hurley
bjornolf wrote:
Jesus_hurley wrote:Hokies non-conference SOS was something like 339 out of 343. That's not going to cut it. Add that to a loss to the 'holes and a first round exit in the tourney. But they should have been in and Wake should have gone to the NIT. And the 'holes should have been in the CBI.
I agree 100%. I wasn't trying to make excuses for VT or make it sound like they got jobbed. I'm just saying they had no way of knowing that Seton Hall, Iowa, and Georgia were all gonna suck and pull their SOS DOWN. That's all I was saying.

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Most definitely - I agree as well. I think all 3 of those teams were picked as middle tier teams in their league which should have brought the SOS up some. What really hurt VT were the games against (RPI):
Brown (257)
UNCG (249)
Delaware (237)
VMI (309)
Charleston Southern (286)
MD Baltimore County (333)
Longwood (285)
NCCU (347 - DEAD FREAKING LAST)

All wins but not very helpful as anything but a way to build your win total up

Re: ACC Vs. The NCAA

Posted: March 15th, 2010, 5:26 pm
by devildeac
Jesus_hurley wrote:
bjornolf wrote:
Jesus_hurley wrote:Hokies non-conference SOS was something like 339 out of 343. That's not going to cut it. Add that to a loss to the 'holes and a first round exit in the tourney. But they should have been in and Wake should have gone to the NIT. And the 'holes should have been in the CBI.
I agree 100%. I wasn't trying to make excuses for VT or make it sound like they got jobbed. I'm just saying they had no way of knowing that Seton Hall, Iowa, and Georgia were all gonna suck and pull their SOS DOWN. That's all I was saying.

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Most definitely - I agree as well. I think all 3 of those teams were picked as middle tier teams in their league which should have brought the SOS up some. What really hurt VT were the games against (RPI):
Brown (257)
UNCG (249)
Delaware (237)
VMI (309)
Charleston Southern (286)
MD Baltimore County (333)
Longwood (285)
NCCU (347 - DEAD FREAKING LAST)

All wins but not very helpful as anything but a way to build your win total up
They shoulda played CofC...