Professional Sports: How to fix them?

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Professional Sports: How to fix them?

Post by Lavabe » February 14th, 2010, 11:11 am

Given the news that the NBA is hurting financially, and the frequent discussions we've had about the state of the NHL, and the dismal state of both MLB and MLS, and well, let's add in the NFL too (they may be heading for a work stoppage in 2011):

What concrete steps should the professional sports industry take to correct issues like dropping ratings and revenue from television; long-term health effects on athletes; alienation of fans; sagging attendance; and more?

In a few threads, we have also discussed horrible leadership in some of the leagues. Are there any solutions?
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Post by YmoBeThere » February 14th, 2010, 11:24 am

They need more cowbell...
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Post by YmoBeThere » February 14th, 2010, 11:28 am

But seriously, I don't watch nearly as much as I used to. Baseball will be the exception to the statement. And I still watch our games, but not as closely or as dilligently as before.

I do think prices for attending games have gotten too high for the average family and as our illustrious President noted when talking about Wall Street pay, there are professional athletes who take home millions yet they and there teams don't really go anywhere.

So, not proposing any solutions at the moment...
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Re: Professional Sports: How to fix them?

Post by Rolvix » February 14th, 2010, 12:38 pm

Stop paying athletes so much.

Pay them more than they would most likely make somewhere else, but not millions of dollars :D

Nah, I have no idea.
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Post by Miles » February 14th, 2010, 3:38 pm

Too many teams, too many games. Get rid of the in-season series in NHL, MLB, or shorten the in-season series. It's ridiculous that you'll play a team from your division almost 20 times in a season (MLB).

Improve the stadium experience for NBA games. I'd rather eat car batteries than put up with the noise and chaos blasted through the PA system.

Stop expansion. Now.

Make teams self-sufficient. No more tax payer dollars, or back room deals to lure teams to cities. If owners are held accountable (have to win to make a profit) perhaps they'll make wiser business decisions which would lead to a more enjoyable experience.

Stop this local blackout bullshit.
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Post by wilson » February 14th, 2010, 7:10 pm

Miles wrote:Too many teams, too many games. Get rid of the in-season series in NHL, MLB, or shorten the in-season series. It's ridiculous that you'll play a team from your division almost 20 times in a season (MLB).

Improve the stadium experience for NBA games. I'd rather eat car batteries than put up with the noise and chaos blasted through the PA system.

Stop expansion. Now.

Make teams self-sufficient. No more tax payer dollars, or back room deals to lure teams to cities. If owners are held accountable (have to win to make a profit) perhaps they'll make wiser business decisions which would lead to a more enjoyable experience.

Stop this local blackout bullshit.
I agree with all of this; well said.
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Re: Professional Sports: How to fix them?

Post by wilson » February 14th, 2010, 9:03 pm

Seriously...why do they play music the whole way through an NBA game? It's so annoying...sounds like a fucking nightclub.
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Post by Lavabe » February 14th, 2010, 10:46 pm

wilson wrote:Seriously...why do they play music the whole way through an NBA game? It's so annoying...sounds like a fucking nightclub.
Because they have a long-standing deal with the Alan Parsons Project.

That and they want it to sound like a nightclub.
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Post by wilson » February 14th, 2010, 10:47 pm

Lavabe wrote:That and they want it to sound like a nightclub.
Well, after all, I guess the majority of the players feel most at home in such an environment.
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Post by Lavabe » February 14th, 2010, 10:55 pm

wilson wrote:
Lavabe wrote:That and they want it to sound like a nightclub.
Well, after all, I guess the majority of the players feel most at home in such an environment.
Do they now have stripper poles at NBA games?
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Post by wilson » February 14th, 2010, 10:57 pm

Lavabe wrote:
wilson wrote:
Lavabe wrote:That and they want it to sound like a nightclub.
Well, after all, I guess the majority of the players feel most at home in such an environment.
Do they now have stripper poles at NBA games?
Seriously...what is it with professional athletes and strippers?
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Post by Miles » February 15th, 2010, 8:08 am

wilson wrote:Do they now have stripper poles at NBA games?
Seriously...what is it with professional athletes and strippers?[/quote]
Kelly and I talking about something similar on Saturday, and I think it stems from a lack of satisfaction in their lives. Some are morally vacant, and emotionally incomplete. All of the bling, big screen tvs, cars, swimming pools and guns in the world cannot fill that void. In a sense, they just don't or cannot appreciate the little things in life. So where do you go next? Sex!
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Post by CameronBornAndBred » February 15th, 2010, 8:13 am

wilson wrote:Seriously...why do they play music the whole way through an NBA game? It's so annoying...sounds like a fucking nightclub.
They even do that in D-League games...and it sounds particularily sad when there are only 3 people in the stands. Like a junior high dance with 4 kids dancing.
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Post by Lavabe » February 15th, 2010, 9:19 am

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wilson wrote:Seriously...why do they play music the whole way through an NBA game? It's so annoying...sounds like a fucking nightclub.
They even do that in D-League games...and it sounds particularily sad when there are only 3 people in the stands. Like a junior high dance with 4 kids dancing.
Given the NBA's news, what's the over/under on how much more time for the D-League?

I suspect that in a cost-cutting move, the D-League, the CBA, etc... will soon cease to be. It'll go back to the ol' fashioned system of expecting the colleges to be the farm system. If you can't make it in the first two rounds of the draft, you go abroad, become a coach at some level, or your career is over.
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Post by EarlJam » February 15th, 2010, 9:57 am

wilson wrote:Seriously...why do they play music the whole way through an NBA game? It's so annoying...sounds like a fucking nightclub.
Agreed. I really can't see why NBA teams don't go the college route and have a band in the stands. Yes, takes up more seats, but I think it would really add to the experience.

As for sports in general, the obvious answer is to somehow lower prices. It would be nice if the athletes would get somewhat of a clue and realize how damn lucky they are. Okay, maybe not "lucky," as I know they work their ass off on their craft; but come on. For playing a kid's game, you're getting paid millions. And if not millions, enough money to to turn it into millions.

When it cost me, the average Joe, $50+ to go to one Braves game, something is drastically wrong. Baseball used to be the "family" sport. How much would it cost to take your family to an MLB game now? $150? With 162 games a season, that's just wrong.

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Post by Miles » February 15th, 2010, 10:36 am

EarlJam wrote:
wilson wrote:Seriously...why do they play music the whole way through an NBA game? It's so annoying...sounds like a fucking nightclub.
Agreed. I really can't see why NBA teams don't go the college route and have a band in the stands. Yes, takes up more seats, but I think it would really add to the experience.

As for sports in general, the obvious answer is to somehow lower prices. It would be nice if the athletes would get somewhat of a clue and realize how damn lucky they are. Okay, maybe not "lucky," as I know they work their ass off on their craft; but come on. For playing a kid's game, you're getting paid millions. And if not millions, enough money to to turn it into millions.

When it cost me, the average Joe, $50+ to go to one Braves game, something is drastically wrong. Baseball used to be the "family" sport. How much would it cost to take your family to an MLB game now? $150? With 162 games a season, that's just wrong.

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There are some ballparks that are addressing the issue of ticket cost, especially for families. I've only been to one park, Petco in San Diego, that has a great family offering. Actually, it's phenomenal. Park in the Park has a mini baseball field, bleacher seats, a picnic area and a big ass hill that gives a decent view of the ball park, not to mention the Park in the Park goes all the down to field level. It's pretty cool to see little kids building sand castles and playing in the dirt during a game. It's perfect for a family that has small children who may not fully appreciate the game yet and it's a pretty awesome deal for older kids that enjoy the game but would also have fun participating in pregame activities.

Park pass is $5. The Bleacher seats, that go all the way down to the field, $10.

San Diego is doing it right. Now they just need pitching, hitting and fielding.
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Post by wilson » February 15th, 2010, 10:40 am

EarlJam wrote:When it cost me, the average Joe, $50+ to go to one Braves game, something is drastically wrong. Baseball used to be the "family" sport. How much would it cost to take your family to an MLB game now? $150? With 162 games a season, that's just wrong.

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Hint: They involve 2-for-1 nights, big beers in the car/parking lot, grilling out, and flasks.
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Post by Miles » February 17th, 2010, 12:09 am

wilson wrote:
EarlJam wrote:When it cost me, the average Joe, $50+ to go to one Braves game, something is drastically wrong. Baseball used to be the "family" sport. How much would it cost to take your family to an MLB game now? $150? With 162 games a season, that's just wrong.

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Hint: They involve 2-for-1 nights, big beers in the car/parking lot, grilling out, and flasks.
Let me know when you fools are down, I'll make the roadtrip.
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Re: Professional Sports: How to fix them?

Post by Lavabe » February 17th, 2010, 8:13 am

Replace Bud Selig with Bob Costas.

It could happen. :-?
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Post by wilson » March 1st, 2010, 9:02 am

A scathing, extremely well-composed critique of the NBA's situation from Bill Simmons (and say what you will about Simmons, but he knows this stuff):
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ons/100224
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