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Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 7:16 pm
by EarlJam
I've been thinking of late. I mean, what makes a cuss word? Social norms, interpretation, and what we have defined to be "moral" certainly comes into play. But isn't the heart (or soul) the ultimate thing to be "judged?" I mean, a cuss word is nothing but sound waves being delivered by the voice box through a tongue and mouth trained to manipulate the waves. It is a physical element, and nothing more. Now, that said, the intent BEHIND the word, or, the "heart" is the true measure. Right?
This all started when honestly, I stubbed my toe against a leg on a couch over the Holiday week. I briefly yelled, "Dammit!" My mom chastised (sp) me. I mean, come on. I had no ill intent. It was a reflex.
Had I yelled the Congo version of dammit, say, "Oogabaki," would she have been so upset? Maybe in that culture that's the worst thing you can say. My point is, for some reason in Western or maybe specifically Southern American culture we have really placed too much emphasis on cussing, while ignoring what's most important....the intention of the heart and soul.
If I may use an example from nature: Say a deer is strolling along in the forest eating some greens. Suddenly, a deer hunter in Roxboro fires his gun and blows a hole through its neck. The deer makes a sound: "Arrruuuooogh," then drops. Did the deer curse? I'd say yes. And I say there was nothing immoral about it.
Don't get me wrong, you can't go wrong with NOT cursing. It's a good thing. I'm just saying.
Man. Should pot be legal?
-EJ
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 7:41 pm
by Lavabe
Dadgummit!! Lost to College of Charleston last night!! Dadgummit!!
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 7:42 pm
by ArkieDukie
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 7:53 pm
by EarlJam
Most agreed! Awesome.
-EJ
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 7:54 pm
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Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 7:56 pm
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Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 8:13 pm
by Very Duke Blue
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 8:29 pm
by windsor
When I'm at a dog show and we all go to dinner we usually discuss the days events...drawing horrified/disgusted looks from the tables next to us because in the breed ring its dogs and bitches. In that context 'bitch' is not a curse word...unless we're talking about the bitch that bitch of a judge put up..
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Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 5th, 2010, 8:39 pm
by EarlJam
windsor wrote:When I'm at a dog show and we all go to dinner we usually discuss the days events...drawing horrified/disgusted looks from the tables next to us because in the breed ring its dogs and bitches. In that context 'bitch' is not a curse word...unless we're talking about the bitch that bitch of a judge put up..
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That is a great point and is largely what I am talking about. That said, not to be crude, but no other way to do it: when a female dog is mating with a male dog, does that make her a "fucking bitch?"
-EJ
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 3:06 pm
by TillyGalore
windsor wrote:When I'm at a dog show and we all go to dinner we usually discuss the days events...drawing horrified/disgusted looks from the tables next to us because in the breed ring its dogs and bitches. In that context 'bitch' is not a curse word...unless we're talking about the bitch that bitch of a judge put up..
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K68 refer to our new dog as a bastard bitch. She's a bastard as K68 and I aren't married, thus bastard bitch is completely appropriate and not cussing or a judgment of our little girl.
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 3:09 pm
by DukeUsul
Cursing never bothered me. Nudity doesn't bother me. Violence does. I never understood why our society is more uptight about exposing young ones to cursing and nudity than it is about violence.
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 3:11 pm
by windsor
TillyGalore wrote:windsor wrote:When I'm at a dog show and we all go to dinner we usually discuss the days events...drawing horrified/disgusted looks from the tables next to us because in the breed ring its dogs and bitches. In that context 'bitch' is not a curse word...unless we're talking about the bitch that bitch of a judge put up..
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K68 refer to our new dog as a bastard bitch. She's a bastard as K68 and I aren't married, thus bastard bitch is completely appropriate and not cussing or a judgment of our little girl.
My husband called one of our dogs a 'son of a bitch'. I advised him that was a statement of fact not an insult. He threw something at me. (the husband, not the dog
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Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 3:21 pm
by EarlJam
windsor wrote:TillyGalore wrote:windsor wrote:When I'm at a dog show and we all go to dinner we usually discuss the days events...drawing horrified/disgusted looks from the tables next to us because in the breed ring its dogs and bitches. In that context 'bitch' is not a curse word...unless we're talking about the bitch that bitch of a judge put up..
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K68 refer to our new dog as a bastard bitch. She's a bastard as K68 and I aren't married, thus bastard bitch is completely appropriate and not cussing or a judgment of our little girl.
My husband called one of our dogs a 'son of a bitch'. I advised him that was a statement of fact not an insult. He threw something at me. (the husband, not the dog
)
LOL! That inspires another post as well (coming). It would be cool if we could get a list of items that have been thrown at you out of violent intent, especially by loved ones during an argument. That could get interesting.
-EarlJam
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 5:02 pm
by Rolvix
My teacher got mad at someone in our class today for saying gosh dammit.
Then we had a 15 minute long conversation about cursing in front of adults and parents...
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 7:44 pm
by cl15876
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 7:45 pm
by cl15876
Rolvix wrote:My teacher got mad at someone in our class today for saying gosh dammit.
Then we had a 15 minute long conversation about cursing in front of adults and parents...
Gosh you just took me back to the 4th grade when I said something similiar and the teacher (Ironically, Ms. Woodie) put me in Timeout!!!!
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 7:49 pm
by CameronBornAndBred
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 8:12 pm
by DukePA
DukeUsul wrote:Cursing never bothered me. Nudity doesn't bother me. Violence does. I never understood why our society is more uptight about exposing young ones to cursing and nudity than it is about violence.
Amen!! BTW, in case you guys haven't noticed, I looooove to cuss!! F-bombs can be so fucking satisfying
and Stevo's naked as a jaybird
Just kidding
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 6th, 2010, 8:56 pm
by cl15876
Re: Cursing - Is it really an issue?
Posted: January 7th, 2010, 8:36 am
by Miles
DukeUsul wrote:Cursing never bothered me. Nudity doesn't bother me. Violence does. I never understood why our society is more uptight about exposing young ones to cursing and nudity than it is about violence.
I made the same point on the local news when I was in high school. People called my parents and my threats to my personal safety.
I was interviewed by a reporter and asked if I was offended that there was an adult bookstore across the street from the high school. Apparently there had been an uproar recently and a lot of parents were complaining and trying to have the business shut down. I told the reporter that I didn't think it was a big deal because you had to be 18 to enter and that most of the parents that were causing the uproar were hypocrites because they were the same parents that bought their underage children R-rated movie tickets. I threw in something like I find it disturbing that parents would rather endorse their children's interest in violence and murder than a natural act like sex.
Took about 10 minutes before the phone started ringing off the hook.