LTE 2.0

[ArkieDukie]

I’m baaaaaaaaaack!!!

Yay! Welcome back!

[OZZIE4DUKE]

I’m baaaaaaaaaack!!!

Yay! Welcome home!

[lawgrad91]

I’m baaaaaaaaaack!!!

Welcome back!

[windsor]

Its 60 in Clearwater FL today - after months of 90 it feels wonderful. Dogs are doing the 'cool weather zooms' in the yard.

[ArkieDukie]

Y’all. Arkansas lost to Liberty yesterday. Is Liberty that good, or is Arkansas that bad?

[TillyGalore2.0]

I am shocked to find the LTE 2.0 thread on the second page. So, I'm doing my part to bring it back to the top.

Greetings from Baltimore, where it just started raining.

[ArkieDukie]

I am shocked to find the LTE 2.0 thread on the second page. So, I'm doing my part to bring it back to the top.

Greetings from Baltimore, where it just started raining.

Great to see you here, Tilly!

Yesterday was cold and rainy in storm. It’s supposed to warm up into the upper 30s today.

[ArkieDukie]

Here’s my fun story for the week. I am corresponding author for a review article that was just accepted for publication. I got an email earlier in the week from the (outsourced) publication team, notifying me that publication had been suspended because I had referred to Table 2 but had not provided it. I figured I had mistakenly cited the one table I did provide by the wrong number, so I searched for the term in our paper. It occurred in one place: “(please see Table 2 in reference [1] for a complete list of …)”. Yep, the reference was to a table in a different paper. Nothing I said made a difference; the data manager would not understand that I was referring to a table in one of my references. I finally ended up omitting “Table 2 in” so that they would restart the publication process.

I should add that what I wrote is no uncommon. I guess having software tag something out of context and having humans who are incapable of understanding that it’s an erroneous tag is the new normal.

[ArkieDukie]

I was curious about the chair of the selection committee, so I looked him up on the Bradley U website. As it turns out, he was a team captain for the Indiana team that we beat in the 1992 Final Four. Could this partially explain how we ended up as a 5 seed, traveling to Orlando, rather than playing in Greensboro? On the bright side, the lack of respect shown by the slelction committee should serve as solid motivation for the team.

[devildeac]

I was curious about the chair of the selection committee, so I looked him up on the Bradley U website. As it turns out, he was a team captain for the Indiana team that we beat in the 1992 Final Four. Could this partially explain how we ended up as a 5 seed, traveling to Orlando, rather than playing in Greensboro? On the bright side, the lack of respect shown by the slelction committee should serve as solid motivation for the team.

Unless it was another selection committee member, bubba the cheater from down the road.

Quite the interesting discovery.

[ArkieDukie]

I was curious about the chair of the selection committee, so I looked him up on the Bradley U website. As it turns out, he was a team captain for the Indiana team that we beat in the 1992 Final Four. Could this partially explain how we ended up as a 5 seed, traveling to Orlando, rather than playing in Greensboro? On the bright side, the lack of respect shown by the slelction committee should serve as solid motivation for the team.

Unless it was another selection committee member, bubba the cheater from down the road.

Quite the interesting discovery.

They were probably like-minded. That would make it an additive effect.

[ArkieDukie]

I found out yesterday that my promotion to Associate Professor was approved by my department. This would normally be exciting, but I’m now 13 months into the process. My division didn’t look at my materials until 6 months after I submitted them. The department took another 7 months. It has at least 2 more levels of bureaucracy to go. So, final approval should come sometime next year for a process that started last September.

Do promotions take this long outside of academia?

[Phredd3]

I found out yesterday that my promotion to Associate Professor was approved by my department. This would normally be exciting, but I’m now 13 months into the process. My division didn’t look at my materials until 6 months after I submitted them. The department took another 7 months. It has at least 2 more levels of bureaucracy to go. So, final approval should come sometime next year for a process that started last September.

Do promotions take this long outside of academia?

Not usually, but most other places don't have tenure, either. The tenure decision is a huge financial commitment for the school. It'll be much quicker to go from Associate to Full than is was from Assistant to Associate.

[OPK]

I found out yesterday that my promotion to Associate Professor was approved by my department. This would normally be exciting, but I’m now 13 months into the process. My division didn’t look at my materials until 6 months after I submitted them. The department took another 7 months. It has at least 2 more levels of bureaucracy to go. So, final approval should come sometime next year for a process that started last September.

Do promotions take this long outside of academia?

Congratulations, to the maximum extent allowable under the bureaucratic circumstances!

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Congrats AD!

[CameronBornAndBred]

Congrats AD!

That's APAD.

[Phredd3]

I found out yesterday that my promotion to Associate Professor was approved by my department. This would normally be exciting, but I’m now 13 months into the process. My division didn’t look at my materials until 6 months after I submitted them. The department took another 7 months. It has at least 2 more levels of bureaucracy to go. So, final approval should come sometime next year for a process that started last September.

Do promotions take this long outside of academia?

Not usually, but most other places don't have tenure, either. The tenure decision is a huge financial commitment for the school. It'll be much quicker to go from Associate to Full than is was from Assistant to Associate.

Lest I seem inconsiderate for not congratulating you in the first place, I realize that that the process is not final. Departmental approval is usually the biggest step, but there's bureaucracy left to go. Please do post when the new appointment is official!

[ArkieDukie]

I found out yesterday that my promotion to Associate Professor was approved by my department. This would normally be exciting, but I’m now 13 months into the process. My division didn’t look at my materials until 6 months after I submitted them. The department took another 7 months. It has at least 2 more levels of bureaucracy to go. So, final approval should come sometime next year for a process that started last September.

Do promotions take this long outside of academia?

Not usually, but most other places don't have tenure, either. The tenure decision is a huge financial commitment for the school. It'll be much quicker to go from Associate to Full than is was from Assistant to Associate.

I’m research track rather than investigator (tenure) track, and I think that’s why it has taken so long. Investigator track and clinicians are in line ahead of me. In my division, I would’ve been considered after the investigator track people (but I don’t know who else was up). Then, going to the larger department, I’d go to the back of the line again - this time behind clinicians, too. I shudder to think how long the faculty executive committee will take. The email said it would be at their Nov 1 meeting, but I cannot see them approving it that quickly, given how long everything else has taken.

[Phredd3]

I found out yesterday that my promotion to Associate Professor was approved by my department. This would normally be exciting, but I’m now 13 months into the process. My division didn’t look at my materials until 6 months after I submitted them. The department took another 7 months. It has at least 2 more levels of bureaucracy to go. So, final approval should come sometime next year for a process that started last September.

Do promotions take this long outside of academia?

Not usually, but most other places don't have tenure, either. The tenure decision is a huge financial commitment for the school. It'll be much quicker to go from Associate to Full than is was from Assistant to Associate.

I’m research track rather than investigator (tenure) track, and I think that’s why it has taken so long. Investigator track and clinicians are in line ahead of me. In my division, I would’ve been considered after the investigator track people (but I don’t know who else was up). Then, going to the larger department, I’d go to the back of the line again - this time behind clinicians, too. I shudder to think how long the faculty executive committee will take. The email said it would be at their Nov 1 meeting, but I cannot see them approving it that quickly, given how long everything else has taken.

Ah, got it. Still, if the department is OK with it, faculty and executive committees are usually rubber stamps (once you can get on their respective agendas). Occasional exceptions, of course, but rare. Unfortunately, the raise doesn't usually come until the final approval. Good luck, and may it be speedy from here.

[ArkieDukie]

Update: I ran into my division chief on the elevator. He congratulated me on my promotion being official. I told him thanks, but it’s got several layers of bureaucracy to go before it’s official. He seemed surprised to hear this and responded with something like, oh, well, the process does normally take around 6 months. You know I clarified that one with, “Actually, it’s been over a year now.” He responded with something about celebrating when it’s approved “in November.” Internally, I rolled my eyes. It’s November now and still isn’t final, and it’s not likely to be. Totally oblivious. I’m still confused as to why they think it’s okay that we are now 4 months past the date when the promotion was supposed to take effect, and it’s not approved yet. This process is seriously broken, and not just here.

On the plus side, I did hear yesterday that the faculty executive committee approved my promotion “enthusiastically and unanimously.” Now it goes to the chancellor, then the Board of Trustees.