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Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 24th, 2011, 10:04 pm
by ArkieDukie
OZZIE4DUKE wrote:Outfriggingstanding! :happy-bouncyblue: :9f:

Please give all three my best! ;)
I'll be sure to do that, Ozzie! =))

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 24th, 2011, 10:27 pm
by captmojo
ArkieDukie wrote: Oh, and he DID invite everyone but me. Nice, right?
Sometimes I think we have the same dude as boss...if it weren't for the fact that my boss would never have a function as you described, at all.

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 24th, 2011, 10:55 pm
by lawgrad91
ArkieDukie wrote:I was not told this directly, but I overheard my boss and Pushy PI talking. The manuscript was rejected! =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) :ymdevil: :9f:
:ymdevil: :ymdevil: :ymdevil: :happy-bouncyblue: =)) =)) :banana-dance: :happy-partydance: :music-rockon: :laughing-lmao:

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 25th, 2011, 2:14 pm
by Lavabe
ArkieDukie wrote:
Very Duke Blue wrote:
ArkieDukie wrote:I was not told this directly, but I overheard my boss and Pushy PI talking. The manuscript was rejected! =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) :ymdevil: :9f:
That's the best news I've had all day. =)) =)) =)) :))
Thanks, VDB! I must admit, it made my day, too. I waited until I got home to really laugh about it, though. :ymdevil:
What a relief!! Was it rejected outright, or was it a "let's see some revisions?" Did the substance of comments support you in any way? Be sure to ask to see the comments.
#:-s
Any word from the Minion? :^o :^o :^o
You know, that's pretty quick turnaround on a paper. It must have been a slam dunk reject. :clap:

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 25th, 2011, 2:25 pm
by Lavabe
ArkieDukie wrote:
lawgrad91 wrote:
ArkieDukie wrote:Well, in case I had any doubt about my status in the lab, I found out tonight that my boss is having a 4th of July shindig and invited at least one person in the lab. I wasn't invited. I'm going to be out of town on the 4th, but he didn't know that. Isn't it poor form for the boss to selectively invite employees to a party that he's having, assuming that you have less than 10 people working for you?
It's very poor form to invite one person from work to a party, without opening the invitations to everyone in the office, unless the office is so large that it becomes unmanageable (and ten is not unmanageable). He should have invited no one, or everyone. X(

Sounds like the PHB. When I turned 40, there were 3 birthdays in our office that month. The other two office staffers (the victim-witness coordinator and "operations manager" -fancy title for head secretary) each got a liter bottle of Grey Goose. He didn't even bother to wish me happy birthday. There are 11 people in my office.
Oh, and he DID invite everyone but me. Nice, right?
What a rhymes-with-schmuck!!!
b-( b-(

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 25th, 2011, 2:54 pm
by ArkieDukie
Lavabe wrote:What a relief!! Was it rejected outright, or was it a "let's see some revisions?" Did the substance of comments support you in any way? Be sure to ask to see the comments.
#:-s
Any word from the Minion? :^o :^o :^o
You know, that's pretty quick turnaround on a paper. It must have been a slam dunk reject. :clap:
I don't know, but I did hear Pushy PI say something about being optimistic. I heard something about no proof of reproducibiliy, and Pushy PI said they have the data for that. Well, actually, they kinda do. They combined results from multiple experiments to get the results in the manuscript. They also didn't do all of their experiments the same way every time. I bet the existing data will be massaged and the manuscript resubmitted. I'd love to see the comments, but I don't think there's any way in Hades they'll show them to me - especially if there's something in them that backs the problems I had with the manuscript.

I wonder if they'll keep that erroneous data point in the future draft? :-?

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 25th, 2011, 3:28 pm
by Ima Facultiwyfe
Whoop Dee DOOOO! and Hooray for YOOOOOOOO! We're having fun now. More to come the day you walk out that door for good. How's the job search coming?

Love, Ima

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 25th, 2011, 3:51 pm
by DukieInKansas
DevilAlumna wrote:
ArkieDukie wrote:I was not told this directly, but I overheard my boss and Pushy PI talking. The manuscript was rejected! =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) :ymdevil: :9f:
:)) =)) :)) =)) :ymparty: :ymapplause: 8-}

Hysterical! If they had listened to you, they could have submitted a manuscript that would have been accepted.

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 26th, 2011, 7:08 pm
by CathyCA
Karma.

I love it!

:ymdevil: :ymdevil: :ymdevil:

:9f:

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 27th, 2011, 6:42 pm
by ArkieDukie
Lavabe wrote:Any word from the Minion? :^o :^o :^o
The Minion was in our lab for a good chunk of the day, doing data analysis. She came by my desk to ask me to "help" her calculate the value for a modification she was looking for. I referred her to the website where she could look up the number herself. :ymdevil: (Editorial comment: she should do the data analysis in her own lab; she has the necessary software. She just does this in our lab so she can spy on us and ask inane questions.)

Still nothing from any of them regarding the manuscript. :ymdevil:

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 27th, 2011, 7:25 pm
by lawgrad91
ArkieDukie wrote:
Lavabe wrote:Any word from the Minion? :^o :^o :^o
The Minion was in our lab for a good chunk of the day, doing data analysis. She came by my desk to ask me to "help" her calculate the value for a modification she was looking for. I referred her to the website where she could look up the number herself. :ymdevil: (Editorial comment: she should do the data analysis in her own lab; she has the necessary software. She just does this in our lab so she can spy on us and ask inane questions.)

Still nothing from any of them regarding the manuscript. :ymdevil:
Good move! :ymdevil: :ymdevil: :9f:

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 27th, 2011, 7:31 pm
by ArkieDukie
lawgrad91 wrote:
ArkieDukie wrote:
Lavabe wrote:Any word from the Minion? :^o :^o :^o
The Minion was in our lab for a good chunk of the day, doing data analysis. She came by my desk to ask me to "help" her calculate the value for a modification she was looking for. I referred her to the website where she could look up the number herself. :ymdevil: (Editorial comment: she should do the data analysis in her own lab; she has the necessary software. She just does this in our lab so she can spy on us and ask inane questions.)

Still nothing from any of them regarding the manuscript. :ymdevil:
Good move! :ymdevil: :ymdevil: :9f:
Thanks; I thought so. I'm so over her coming to my desk to ask me to "help" her do something. The translation of "helping" her is to do it while she looks over your shoulder to make sure you do what she asked. I'm finished with "helping" her do stuff that she's too lazy to do herself. :ymdevil: :ymdevil: :9f:

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 27th, 2011, 10:56 pm
by DukieInKansas
You are a wise woman, AD!

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 29th, 2011, 6:39 pm
by ArkieDukie
Pushy PI and The Minion met with my boss this morning. After the meeting, Pushy PI had a very loud conversation with my boss (for my benefit, I'm sure) about how optimistic he is with regard to the paper being accepted after revisions. To answer the questions about reproducibility, they're pooling old samples and re-analyzing them. Normally one would repeat the entire experiment. :doh: :ymsigh: L-) :^o

In case I haven't mentioned it lately, I'm really glad that I'm off that manuscript.

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 29th, 2011, 6:54 pm
by DukePA
I am so happy the manuscript was rejected. It seems to me that if the editors saw through their bullshit the first time, they'll see through it again. :happy-bouncyblue: :happy-bouncyblue: :happy-bouncyblue: :happy-bouncyblue:

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 29th, 2011, 11:12 pm
by Lavabe
ArkieDukie wrote:Pushy PI and The Minion met with my boss this morning. After the meeting, Pushy PI had a very loud conversation with my boss (for my benefit, I'm sure) about how optimistic he is with regard to the paper being accepted after revisions. To answer the questions about reproducibility, they're pooling old samples and re-analyzing them. Normally one would repeat the entire experiment. :doh: :ymsigh: L-) :^o

In case I haven't mentioned it lately, I'm really glad that I'm off that manuscript.
Here's the perfect journal for that manuscript to go in:
http://www.jir.com/
:D

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 30th, 2011, 10:35 am
by lawgrad91
Lavabe wrote:
ArkieDukie wrote:Pushy PI and The Minion met with my boss this morning. After the meeting, Pushy PI had a very loud conversation with my boss (for my benefit, I'm sure) about how optimistic he is with regard to the paper being accepted after revisions. To answer the questions about reproducibility, they're pooling old samples and re-analyzing them. Normally one would repeat the entire experiment. :doh: :ymsigh: L-) :^o

In case I haven't mentioned it lately, I'm really glad that I'm off that manuscript.
Here's the perfect journal for that manuscript to go in:
http://www.jir.com/
:D
:))

What would behoove a scientist (besides stupidity) NOT to repeat the entire experiment?

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 30th, 2011, 6:05 pm
by ArkieDukie
lawgrad91 wrote:
Lavabe wrote:
ArkieDukie wrote:Pushy PI and The Minion met with my boss this morning. After the meeting, Pushy PI had a very loud conversation with my boss (for my benefit, I'm sure) about how optimistic he is with regard to the paper being accepted after revisions. To answer the questions about reproducibility, they're pooling old samples and re-analyzing them. Normally one would repeat the entire experiment. :doh: :ymsigh: L-) :^o

In case I haven't mentioned it lately, I'm really glad that I'm off that manuscript.
Here's the perfect journal for that manuscript to go in:
http://www.jir.com/
:D
:))

What would behoove a scientist (besides stupidity) NOT to repeat the entire experiment?
Laziness would be near the top of the list. Arrogance is up there, too. But, you are correct, stupidity is at the top of the list. :9f:

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 30th, 2011, 6:20 pm
by ArkieDukie
The Minion has just about pushed me over the edge. The B!tch sent an e-mail to me late this afternoon, copying my boss, asking me to "help her" process her data files. "Help her" means do it for her, especially in this case - it's not something she can do. Being a responsible person and on top of my job, I started processing her d@mn data files this morning. It was all I could do to NOT say something about not taking my orders from her. The response was a simple, "The files have been processing since early this morning." X( X( X(

My co-workers and I are fed up with The Minion. She comes into our lab and issues orders like she owns the place. She expects us to drop whatever we're doing and help her when she asks. She has actually started issuing orders to me when I'm literally in the middle of typing a sentence, and I'm not the only person she's done that to. When we don't immediately start helping her, she whines to her boss, who then gets on our boss. In fact, she got one of my co-workers in trouble because he didn't drop everything the instant she asked.

It seems to me like my boss shouldn't like someone other than him issuing orders to his employees, especially since she's somewhat deceptive when she does it. She tells people to do things, saying my boss said to do it, when he has not done so. I'm not sure why the heck he hasn't issued a cease and desist order for her, unless he's afraid of ticking off Pushy PI. I still say that it's not her place to order us around, and my boss shouldn't let her do so.

Okay, sending a hefty round of shin kicks and ending rant now...

Re: an interesting dilemma...

Posted: June 30th, 2011, 9:20 pm
by CameronBornAndBred
ArkieDukie wrote:Okay, sending a hefty round of shin kicks and ending rant now...
We need a shin kicking smilie.