Office (Word) 2007 Question

[cl15876]

"quote="colchar"""quote="Miles""
Why were they irritating you? "/quote"

They were irritating me because A) I am rather particular about the way in which my folders etc. are organized and B) I really dislike software that creates things for you as if you are unable to figure it out for yourself (to me that comes across as the developer thinking you are too stupid to figure out how you want your computer organized.

Have you considered writing Microsoft and voicing your concern?"/quote"

No - but I will bitch at DA and a friend of mine who works for Microsoft.

Sounds like you need a MAC!!!! (if you go with a MAC)!!!!

I will never ever join that cult!

Gosh, I am SOO PROUD OF YOU!!!!

[DevilAlumna]

No - but I will bitch at DA and a friend of mine who works for Microsoft.

You rang? ;)

Errmmm, yeah, I'll get right on it.... ;)

FWIW, I totally agree that its a sucky behavior - sticking a lame settings folder in the midst of your documents folder. That's why there are settings folders.

I think you can install Windows Live Mail, without having to install the full suite of Windows Live stuff.

As for Outlook 2003 being better than 2007, you're nuts, unless by "better," you mean slow and lacking helpful features. You're gonna seriously have issues with 2010....

Love ya, man!

[Miles]

I will never ever join that cult!

You're almost a member. Once you join the "Bitch About Microsoft Cult" that you're only one step away.

[colchar]

No - but I will bitch at DA and a friend of mine who works for Microsoft.

You rang? ;)

Errmmm, yeah, I'll get right on it.... ;)

FWIW, I totally agree that its a sucky behavior - sticking a lame settings folder in the midst of your documents folder. That's why there are settings folders.

I think you can install Windows Live Mail, without having to install the full suite of Windows Live stuff.

As for Outlook 2003 being better than 2007, you're nuts, unless by "better," you mean slow and lacking helpful features. You're gonna seriously have issues with 2010....

Love ya, man!

Yeah, Outlook 2003 did suck. For some reason it kept hanging so I uninstalled it and was forced to go with the version included in Office 2007.

Here's another question - I'd like to upgrade my laptop to Windows 7 (assuming it isn't too much of a pain in the arse as Toshiba seems to have some fairly complicated instructions for doing the upgrade and I am not sure their suggested procedure will work since I bought my copy from school and not from them - theirs seems to include some sort of update tool that I don't have) but, leaving the Toshiba issues aside, can I upgrade using the same copy of Windows 7 or would I need to buy a new one? I'm assuming you can install a copy on two personal computers but wanted to ask before I tried to do so.

[colchar]

I will never ever join that cult!

You're almost a member. Once you join the "Bitch About Microsoft Cult" that you're only one step away.

I usually do bitch about Microsoft but, other than this creating a folder issue (which has nothing to do with Windows 7), I have to say that they did a great job with Windows 7. Credit where credit is due.

[DevilAlumna]

Here's another question - can I upgrade using the same copy of Windows 7 or would I need to buy a new one? I'm assuming you can install a copy on two personal computers but wanted to ask before I tried to do so.

Go for it. I believe the official licensing terms are for a device, and an associated portable device. (Which is intended to mean, desktop & laptop.)

Frankly, I would interpret that as you can install on two machines, regardless of form factor. As long as you don't try to reactivate the same product key several times over a short period of time, you should be okay.

[CameronBornAndBred]

Here's another question - can I upgrade using the same copy of Windows 7 or would I need to buy a new one? I'm assuming you can install a copy on two personal computers but wanted to ask before I tried to do so.

Go for it. I believe the official licensing terms are for a device, and an associated portable device. (Which is intended to mean, desktop & laptop.)

Frankly, I would interpret that as you can install on two machines, regardless of form factor. As long as you don't try to reactivate the same product key several times over a short period of time, you should be okay.

Cool to know. Try it and let us know if you get yelled at Colchar.

[colchar]

Cool to know. Try it and let us know if you get yelled at Colchar.

Will do. I'm backing up my files now and I'll do the upgrade when that is finished. I'll let y'all know how it goes.

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Here's another question - can I upgrade using the same copy of Windows 7 or would I need to buy a new one? I'm assuming you can install a copy on two personal computers but wanted to ask before I tried to do so.

Go for it. I believe the official licensing terms are for a device, and an associated portable device. (Which is intended to mean, desktop & laptop.)

Frankly, I would interpret that as you can install on two machines, regardless of form factor. As long as you don't try to reactivate the same product key several times over a short period of time, you should be okay.

I am so surprised the Microsoft will let you install it on two devices with the same key number. Very cool!

[colchar]

Here's another question - can I upgrade using the same copy of Windows 7 or would I need to buy a new one? I'm assuming you can install a copy on two personal computers but wanted to ask before I tried to do so.

Go for it. I believe the official licensing terms are for a device, and an associated portable device. (Which is intended to mean, desktop & laptop.)

Frankly, I would interpret that as you can install on two machines, regardless of form factor. As long as you don't try to reactivate the same product key several times over a short period of time, you should be okay.

I am so surprised the Microsoft will let you install it on two devices with the same key number. Very cool!

Well we don't know for certain yet that they will. But I'm about to do the upgrade so I'll let everyone know how it goes.

[colchar]

The upgrade is done and it worked fine.

I'm off to bed and I'll reinstall my programs in the morning.

[OZZIE4DUKE]

The upgrade is done and it worked fine.

I'm off to bed and I'll reinstall my programs in the morning.

[CameronBornAndBred]

The upgrade is done and it worked fine.

I'm off to bed and I'll reinstall my programs in the morning.

Cool!

[cl15876]

Here's another question - can I upgrade using the same copy of Windows 7 or would I need to buy a new one? I'm assuming you can install a copy on two personal computers but wanted to ask before I tried to do so.

Go for it. I believe the official licensing terms are for a device, and an associated portable device. (Which is intended to mean, desktop & laptop.)

Frankly, I would interpret that as you can install on two machines, regardless of form factor. As long as you don't try to reactivate the same product key several times over a short period of time, you should be okay.

I am so surprised the Microsoft will let you install it on two devices with the same key number. Very cool!

The beauty of NAT! Everything looks like 192.168.1.1 (or slight variation)! ;)

[CameronBornAndBred]

Go for it. I believe the official licensing terms are for a device, and an associated portable device. (Which is intended to mean, desktop & laptop.)

Frankly, I would interpret that as you can install on two machines, regardless of form factor. As long as you don't try to reactivate the same product key several times over a short period of time, you should be okay.

I am so surprised the Microsoft will let you install it on two devices with the same key number. Very cool!

The beauty of NAT! Everything looks like 192.168.1.1 (or slight variation)! ;)

I would assume that it does not install by IP, because if it did you could take your pc to a friend's house and do it there. I would guess it stores the activiation and a GUID or some other hardware identifier with it. FYI, from experience you can usually reactivate a MS product after about 3 months without problems, I guess they recycle their database periodically. DA would know more how they store that info..I'm just guessing.

[colchar]

There is one irritating issue I've come across with Windows 7. After installing some more programs I noticed that the Start Menu icons for previously installed programs disappear. The text for the program is still there but the icon changes to the default Microsoft one for something that has been deleted (I'm sure you all know the one I am talking about). This is more than a little irritating and am not sure why Microsoft would ship the product with this bug in it.

Other than that, though, I am still really really liking Windows 7.

[colchar]

Alright so ti seems that I was wrong about being able to install Windows 7 on a second computer. I kept getting, and ignoring, a message saying that my copy could not be activated. Out of curiosity I finally clicked on the message today and was informed that it couldn't be activated. So I called their number and tried to follow the commands to validate and the system told me it couldn't be done. I continued on to speak to a representative and she gave me an activation code for this computer.

When I asked why I couldn't install it on two computers I was told that Microsoft products could only be installed on one computer. I explained that that hadn't been the case with XP and Vista and enquired why it was now the case with Windows 7. Her English was atrocious (I was obviously speaking to someone outside of North America) and I am not sure she understood my question as she started explaining to me how my earlier copies of XP had been validated because I had done a downgrade. When I explained that I most certainly had not done any kind of downgrade she simply kept repeating that I must have done so (great customer service there Microsoft).

As I said, she did give me an activation code so everything is fine but what I want to know is why I was told I couldn't validate my system, was forced to phone in, and then was provided with a code right away? If it is that simple why couldn't their automated system have accomplished this or, far more importantly, if they are now allowing me to use my copy on two computers why can't you just do that in the first place without having to phone in?

[Miles]

I am so surprised the Microsoft will let you install it on two devices with the same key number. Very cool!

The beauty of NAT! Everything looks like 192.168.1.1 (or slight variation)! ;)

I would assume that it does not install by IP, because if it did you could take your pc to a friend's house and do it there. I would guess it stores the activiation and a GUID or some other hardware identifier with it. ...

My guess goes to MAC address.

[cl15876]

"quote="OZZIE4DUKE""
I am so surprised the Microsoft will let you install it on two devices with the same key number. Very cool!"/quote"

The beauty of NAT! Everything looks like 192.168.1.1 (or slight variation)! ;)

I would assume that it does not install by IP, because if it did you could take your pc to a friend's house and do it there. I would guess it stores the activiation and a GUID or some other hardware identifier with it. ...

My guess goes to MAC address.

[Jesus_hurley]

My understanding of the Microsoft activation process is that they have an algorithm that takes into account all the hardware, and depending on what you are activating, the OS. So you could upgrade memory and not have to re-activate, or you could add a new sound card or something and not have to activate, but if you upgrade memory, sound and video enough changes have taken place to cause you to have to re-activate. As has been discussed, I've never had a customer service rep at MS not give me a new code when I've called in so I guess they figure if you take the time to call you must be legit.