Re: The Political Junkie Thread
Posted: October 11th, 2022, 8:29 pm
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From what I've read, even though it's beyond slow, the suits are still progressing. Of course lots of folks filed appeals that they shouldn't have to testify, or that the lawsuits should be dismissed, but for the most part all of those have been shot down. I think at least one of them is finally supposed to go to trial early 2023.CrazyNotCrazie wrote: ↑October 11th, 2022, 8:07 pmSpeaking of which, has there been any update on the lawsuit by the voting machine company? I am all for due process but it is agonizing how long these trials take. We really need to hire more judges, though I guess if all of those judges were Trumpers, it wouldn't be good.
If it was Wheat he deserved it. He kept chirping on about DeathSantis even after Jason told everyone to knock it off. It was getting as bad as his Boaters for tRump rants. The only reason that it might not be him is that Jason is fairly protective of Wheat for some reason. I am 100% convinced he is a troll with everything he posts there.
Funny you should say that. I just possibly went a bit overboard attacking him in the Crypto thread. Because he kind of came after me (not sure if it was intentional). I really need to just stop going to that thread.Furniture wrote: ↑October 11th, 2022, 9:36 pmIf it was Wheat he deserved it. He kept chirping on about DeathSantis even after Jason told everyone to knock it off. It was getting as bad as his Boaters for tRump rants. The only reason that it might not be him is that Jason is fairly protective of Wheat for some reason. I am 100% convinced he is a troll with everything he posts there.
Haven't gone to zero, but I post waaaay less than I used to specifically because of the infantile way that politics are handled over there. I may go to zero soon. Either ban discussion of it completely, or allow open discussion that still stays within the normal board guidelines of respecting people.ArkieDukie wrote: ↑October 11th, 2022, 7:01 pmI no longer post on DBR. I’ve been censured (and censored) for posting anything against the former president. Interestingly, it appeared at the time that posts supporting said former president were okay.
And this is why I stay up at night wondering what the future of this country is. The Republican party largely sold out to him and his imaginary world. Everyone thought that more Republicans would be like Liz Cheney and be the adult in the room and say that the Emperor has no clothes. But they realized that there were tens of millions of Americans who had had a big drink of the Kool-Aid so they did what their constituents demanded and supported Trump.OPK wrote: ↑October 12th, 2022, 11:11 amI think part of the problem is that Trump has just obliterated the boundaries of what is normal or real. Not that political discussion was necessarily civil before, but now there are two separate realities and you can’t find common ground when you don’t agree on basic facts.
I don’t post much on DBR anymore and I really blame one person, it’s that post o maniac guy. He decides everything, he knows everything and I mean everything and if you don’t agree you are stupid. So opinionated it makes me nauseous. Then there is all the people that such up to him. His attitude has basically demotivated me from posting much. Plus he defends Wheat.Wander wrote: ↑October 12th, 2022, 9:59 amHaven't gone to zero, but I post waaaay less than I used to specifically because of the infantile way that politics are handled over there. I may go to zero soon. Either ban discussion of it completely, or allow open discussion that still stays within the normal board guidelines of respecting people.ArkieDukie wrote: ↑October 11th, 2022, 7:01 pmI no longer post on DBR. I’ve been censured (and censored) for posting anything against the former president. Interestingly, it appeared at the time that posts supporting said former president were okay.
The whole "you can openly state and argue for your own views as long as those views are that you blame both sides" is pathetic. Imagine if that policy was put in place during, say, the segregation era (and, yes, I believe in a few decades the MAGA movement will be viewed approximately similarly to how we look back at segregationalists now) . DBR political discussions are going to look really, really bad if anyone is around to look back at them in 30 years.
By the way, none of the above should be interpreted as "Democrats are just so great". I think they're a somewhat normal political party with a mix of things I agree and disagree with, a mix of effective messaging and really cringe stuff, a decent diversity of viewpoints in primaries, etc.
At this point, anyone who does not have an opinion does not have a pulse. I guess some people are better than I am and can rise above their previously held opinion to give him a fair trial. I think the perspective on all of this would be different if he was in jail awaiting trial (I know that's not how it works for this kind of situation, but I wish it did!). These trials are really taking forever. I wonder what Trump's total legal bills per year total.CameronBornAndBred wrote: ↑October 26th, 2022, 10:52 amThe tax fraud trial against the Trump Org is showing just how hard it will be to try Trump if he faces any legal charges. It's not about proving the case, it's about even sitting a jury. Finding 12 people that aren't biased one way or the other is showing to be quite the challenge. Literally dozens have been excused as each has announced that they could not impartially determine a decision, and this is just for a civil suit!
The DOJ doesn't give immunity lightly, so that's a pretty big move on their part. I'm guessing an indictment will be coming sooner than later after Election Day.Former Trump aide Kash Patel is set to testify before a federal grand jury about the classified documents recovered from former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home after being granted immunity for any information, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Patel — who has claimed that Trump had declassified the documents found at Mar-a-Lago — previously refused to provide information to the grand jury, instead invoking his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
Last night was bad for those candidates, but even worse for Trump. With DeSantis' very strong showing, Trump should be way worried about his hopes for 2024. The writing is on the wall that he's not the winner that he thinks he is.Former President Donald Trump "is livid” and “screaming at everyone” after last night’s disappointing GOP results in the midterms, a Trump adviser who has been in contact with Trump’s inner circle tells CNN.
This adviser said it’s unlikely Trump would delay his expected presidential announcement because “it’s too humiliating to delay.” But the adviser said there are too many unknowns at this point.
“Light fuse . . . get away”CameronBornAndBred wrote: ↑November 9th, 2022, 9:46 amLast night was bad for those candidates, but even worse for Trump. With DeSantis' very strong showing, Trump should be way worried about his hopes for 2024. The writing is on the wall that he's not the winner that he thinks he is.Former President Donald Trump "is livid” and “screaming at everyone” after last night’s disappointing GOP results in the midterms, a Trump adviser who has been in contact with Trump’s inner circle tells CNN.
This adviser said it’s unlikely Trump would delay his expected presidential announcement because “it’s too humiliating to delay.” But the adviser said there are too many unknowns at this point.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... ebb7a323b3
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-left-fu ... 29936.html"This is a sinking ship," one top Trump adviser told ABC News. "We're not going to beat that."
"This was the end of the Trump era and the dawn of the DeSantis era," a Republican operative close to the Trump orbit told ABC News. "Like every other Trump catastrophe, he did this to himself with stupid and reckless decisions."
He may be mortally wounded, but he’s gonna fight dirty and viciously until they haul him away.CameronBornAndBred wrote: ↑November 10th, 2022, 12:48 pmPoor lil' feller.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-left-fu ... 29936.html"This is a sinking ship," one top Trump adviser told ABC News. "We're not going to beat that."
"This was the end of the Trump era and the dawn of the DeSantis era," a Republican operative close to the Trump orbit told ABC News. "Like every other Trump catastrophe, he did this to himself with stupid and reckless decisions."
Oh I totally agree. As long as he is a candidate (and even after), the GOP race is going to be fun to watch.OPK wrote: ↑November 10th, 2022, 2:36 pmHe may be mortally wounded, but he’s gonna fight dirty and viciously until they haul him away.CameronBornAndBred wrote: ↑November 10th, 2022, 12:48 pmPoor lil' feller.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-left-fu ... 29936.html"This is a sinking ship," one top Trump adviser told ABC News. "We're not going to beat that."
"This was the end of the Trump era and the dawn of the DeSantis era," a Republican operative close to the Trump orbit told ABC News. "Like every other Trump catastrophe, he did this to himself with stupid and reckless decisions."