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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by Bostondevil » November 7th, 2009, 12:57 am

Ima Facultiwyfe wrote: WOW! that makes absolute sense. Why didn't I ever think of that? It would keep the filling from getting all runny and making the crust soggy, right? Super. This old dog is gonna try this new trick tomorrow!!!
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PS Anybody who doesn't make crust from scratch isn't giving his/her pie a fighting chance at greatness!
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Re: LTE 2.0

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DukieInKansas wrote: Will you teach me how to make a pie crust the next time I come to visit? I confess to using the Pillsbury All Ready crusts.
Pie crusts = not hard! The only thing is you have to make them ahead of time. One hour's worth of chill time is not enough, overnight is much better. Then you need to give it at least 10 minutes at room temperature before you try to roll it out.

Flour, butter, salt, an egg, some vinegar (I prefer cider vinegar), shortening (or lard although I use the Crisco), cut the stuff together with a pastry cutter until coarse, not until fine, gather up into a ball and chill overnight.

Oh, and to give your apple pie that little something extra, brush heavy cream on the top crust and sprinkle a little sugar over it before baking.
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Re: LTE 2.0

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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by Lavabe » November 7th, 2009, 5:59 am

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DukieInKansas wrote: Will you teach me how to make a pie crust the next time I come to visit? I confess to using the Pillsbury All Ready crusts.
Pie crusts = not hard! The only thing is you have to make them ahead of time. One hour's worth of chill time is not enough, overnight is much better. Then you need to give it at least 10 minutes at room temperature before you try to roll it out.

Flour, butter, salt, an egg, some vinegar (I prefer cider vinegar), shortening (or lard although I use the Crisco), cut the stuff together with a pastry cutter until coarse, not until fine, gather up into a ball and chill overnight.

Oh, and to give your apple pie that little something extra, brush heavy cream on the top crust and sprinkle a little sugar over it before baking.
Given my cholesterol issues, I'll skip the heavy cream, and avoid the lard (I'll use the Crisco as well). On the sugar, we leave vanilla beans in our sugar container, thus infusing vanilla flavor in the sugar. It adds an extra flavor when it comes to the topping.

Courtlands make a LOT of sense. Unfortunately, I can't get them here. Other than Rome or GrannySmith, what others might work well?

Crumble or pie crust top? I grew up with crumble.

On the other hand, on Food Network last night, they had a pie competition. Somebody entered an apple pie baked with RED DELICIOUS. :-? :-o
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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by YmoBeThere » November 7th, 2009, 7:22 am

There used to be thousands of different apple varieties. Well, many more than today. It was an example of the growing lack of biodiversity at one of the TED conferences.
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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by TillyGalore » November 7th, 2009, 8:04 am

I read a recipe on the Food Network's website and in the comments section someone mentioned using a variety of apples. When I made my first pie a few weeks back I used Granny Smiths and Honey Crisps, that what I had in the house.

DinK, I use the premade crusts too. Though may try making my own crust as apple pie with a homemade crust does rock.
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Re: LTE 2.0

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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by ArkieDukie » November 7th, 2009, 8:51 am

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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by ArkieDukie » November 7th, 2009, 8:53 am

Bostondevil wrote:
Lavabe wrote:
Bostondevil wrote:I should post this in the talent thread. But I'm not.

Damn, I make a good apple pie.

I'm eating a piece right now. Please excuse my ego but as Dizzy Dean said, "It ain't bragging if you can back it up."
What kind(s) of apples?
Lavabe, really, it's not the recipe so much as the cook. :ymdevil: :p :-j (*)

And I make my own crusts.

Courtlands. The key to an excellent apple pie is to saute the sliced apples in butter (plus a little sugar) until tender, let them cool completely, toss them with a little flour and cinnamon, THEN put them in the crust to bake.
I never would've thought of doing it this way. Thanks, Bostondevil! I'll have to try this next time I make an apple pie or apple crisp.
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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by ArkieDukie » November 7th, 2009, 8:59 am

Bostondevil wrote:
DukieInKansas wrote: Will you teach me how to make a pie crust the next time I come to visit? I confess to using the Pillsbury All Ready crusts.
Pie crusts = not hard! The only thing is you have to make them ahead of time. One hour's worth of chill time is not enough, overnight is much better. Then you need to give it at least 10 minutes at room temperature before you try to roll it out.

Flour, butter, salt, an egg, some vinegar (I prefer cider vinegar), shortening (or lard although I use the Crisco), cut the stuff together with a pastry cutter until coarse, not until fine, gather up into a ball and chill overnight.

Oh, and to give your apple pie that little something extra, brush heavy cream on the top crust and sprinkle a little sugar over it before baking.
My grandmother, who made some pretty phenomenal pies, used lard in her pie crusts. I've never heard of using vinegar in the crust and am intrigued. What does that do? I've always just used water. My trick, on the rare occasions when I make pie crust, is to combine everything except the water in a food processor and process until crumbly. I then add water VERY slowly until the mixture forms a ball. Doesn't take much. You definitely need to chill the dough for easier handling. Over-working makes for a tough pie crust.
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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by Bostondevil » November 7th, 2009, 9:03 am

Other decent pie-baking apples

Golden delicious
Royal Gala
Macoun

Yes, you can bake with MacIntoshes, but they are much better for eating.

You can also mix varieties. I'm not sure I'd want a whole pie made with Empires, but I wouldn't be adverse to mixing them in with another type. You need about 7 large apples or 10 medium sized apples for a pie.
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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by Bostondevil » November 7th, 2009, 9:05 am

Hmmm, maybe vinegar is the secret to my pie crust. It's just a touch. I've always used it though. I have no idea what it does. I put water in there too.
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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by bjornolf » November 7th, 2009, 9:20 am

Ima Facultiwyfe wrote:
WOW! that makes absolute sense. Why didn't I ever think of that? It would keep the filling from getting all runny and making the crust soggy, right? Super. This old dog is gonna try this new trick tomorrow!!!
Love, Ima
PS Anybody who doesn't make crust from scratch isn't giving his/her pie a fighting chance at greatness!
I have to disagree there. I've found that the refrigerated pillsbury crusts that come rolled up in a box are as good as any I've ever been able to make, and they're a million times easier.

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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by bjornolf » November 7th, 2009, 9:22 am

Bostondevil wrote:Other decent pie-baking apples

Golden delicious
Royal Gala
Macoun

Yes, you can bake with MacIntoshes, but they are much better for eating.

You can also mix varieties. I'm not sure I'd want a whole pie made with Empires, but I wouldn't be adverse to mixing them in with another type. You need about 7 large apples or 10 medium sized apples for a pie.
Are those tart apples? I like the tart ones for pie, so I usually just use granny smith. The mix idea sounds good though.

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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by Very Duke Blue » November 7th, 2009, 10:43 am

umm. i want some apple pie..i just need to find someone willing to make me one. :D
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Re: LTE 2.0

Post by Lavabe » November 7th, 2009, 11:09 am

bjornolf wrote:
Bostondevil wrote:Other decent pie-baking apples

Golden delicious
Royal Gala
Macoun

Yes, you can bake with MacIntoshes, but they are much better for eating.

You can also mix varieties. I'm not sure I'd want a whole pie made with Empires, but I wouldn't be adverse to mixing them in with another type. You need about 7 large apples or 10 medium sized apples for a pie.
Are those tart apples? I like the tart ones for pie, so I usually just use granny smith. The mix idea sounds good though.

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The Macouns are great snacking apples (just had a few a couple of weeks ago when I went to the orchard in my hometown in Jersey). They're derived from Macs and Jersey Blacks (an old variety).

The Cortlands that you're baking with are also derived from McIntoshes (bred with the Ben Davis).

I'm seeing a pattern here, BD. Go with a sweet McIntosh/McIntosh derived apple.

As for the vinegar, thanks to the miracle of google:
"Why add vinegar to your pie crust dough?
When flour is mixed with water, gluten is formed--these are the protein strands that are necessary in yeast bread making, etc. When making quick breads the mixture is only mixed until blended--never overmixed--so that too much gluten is not formed. The vinegar is used in your pie crust recipe because the acid (along with the shortening) keeps the gluten strands from getting too long--thus resulting in a tender, flaky product."

(from: http://www.dianasdesserts.com/index.cfm ... Pastry.cfm)
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Re: LTE 2.0

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